When a student comes into college with a transcript from Dual Credit classes taken during high school, are those grades included in their GPA at the college they now attend? When taking classes as DC you get a transcript with grades from the community college that is sent to the new college as opposed to AP classes where you just get the credits. Thanks!

I have been told that even though the student gets college credit for those classes taken in hs the gpa does not follow him to college. I'm sure someone on here has personal experience with this and will verify or correct this info.

To the best of my knowledge credits transfer (assuming they are accepted), not grades.

I have 3 in college right now that took AP(advanced placement) classes in high school but had to take the AP exams after the classes ended in order to get college credits. Their GPA's were not computed into their college GPA's but they still received credit
for the courses tsken in HS. Only grades rec'd in college count towards the college GPA.

Don't know if this is basically what you're asking but I guess it could be different in other schools???
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Sorry, after reading again it would seem logical that a class(classes) taken at a community/junior college while still in HS should be considered as college classes and if transferable as credits then the GPA should also count as well. They ARE college classes.

Please disregard my first paragraph-it obviously wasn't what you were asking.

Don't know how it works in TX, but where we are from, you get the HS credit for classes taken at the college level while in HS, not college credit. And as far as AP classes and credits go, not all colleges give college credit for AP classes. Many of them give placement instead. So, for example, if you scored high enough on an AP exam, you could skip the 101 class and take the more advanced class. Hope that makes sense.

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Originally posted by Moc1:
Sorry, after reading again it would seem logical that a class(classes) taken at a community/junior college while still in HS should be considered as college classes and if transferable as credits then the GPA should also count as well. They ARE college classes.

Colleges don't accept grades from other colleges. They only take the credits. Maybe if a student tranfers within the state system it may be different.

no11, in Texas they have dual credit classes. These are college courses, often (always?) taught by college professors. The student receives HS credit (but typically not a grade toward their HS transcript, just pass or fail) as well as college credit (with a grade).

ORMom, as a rule colleges will only bring over the credit. Colleges typically don't include any transfer course grades (dual credit or otherwise) in their own GPA.

Thanks so much! Just wondering because of my son's academic scholarship and the GPA needed to keep it!

On one hand, nice to have the credits out of the way. On the other hand, fewer of the "easier" courses with which to pump up that GPA.

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Originally posted by Moc1:
Sorry, after reading again it would seem logical that a class(classes) taken at a community/junior college while still in HS should be considered as college classes and if transferable as credits then the GPA should also count as well. They ARE college classes.

By RJM:
"Colleges don't accept grades from other colleges. They only take the credits. Maybe if a student tranfers within the state system it may be different."


RJM-I just checked my oldest son's transcripts online. He transferred from USF to Tennessee and the credits as well as the GPA all transferred. He is now at UNF and all of his credits as well as his GPA from USF and UT transferred as well. His overall GPA
has been calculated with all of his credits and points from all 3 schools. From Florida to Tennessee and back to Florida again. Luckily every course he has taken has been accepted at all 3 schools. BTW, I wouldn't recommend this as the best way to attend college , but sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do.

Of all the people I know who transferred (from when I played to kids I know playing now) that's the first time I've heard of the grades transferring. I've heard the grades have to be B's or better for the credits to transfer.

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Originally posted by RJM:
Of all the people I know who transferred (from when I played to kids I know playing now) that's the first time I've heard of the grades transferring.

Same here.

Texan:

How does that work if you go out of state to college? My oldest is at an out of state college. There was no college credit received for any classes taken in HS, regardless where taken - HS or college, not even AP credit - placement only.

I did a google search and came up with the conclusion that grades do not transfer only credits. Some schools vary on their GPA requirements to transfer credits, depending on the institution, a C or better for that class.

Most schools will keep on file, your GPA from the school you transferred from, but it is not figured into your total GPA, only the classes you took at that school you are now attending.

Two major universtiites, UT and Clemson also came up with that info.

To get credit for AP courses, a 3 or better must be achieved on the exam.

no11,
Credit is only given if the school you are transfering those credits to has an equivalency course.
Hope that clears up the confusion.

no11, the HS students in dual credit are officially enrolled in a nearby college (the one with whom the HS had the dual credit arrangement, and whom provides the instructors). Let's call that college BCC (Baseball Community College) for simplicity. The student has an official transcript from BCC, showing the course, grade, credit hours, etc. The same transcript the student would have if he had waited until after HS and then gone to BCC and taken the courses.

As TPM pointed out, the ultimate college the kid attends (Mega U. for example) doesn't have to accept transfer hours from another school. But 98% of the universities out there will accept transfer hours of lower level courses provided: they come from an accredited college; and the university (e.g., MU) offers an "equivalent" course to which they could logically apply the transfer credit.

The key here is that the courses are truly college courses, and there is an official college transcript from BCC.

Okay Just to REALLY clarify this. Just got off the phone with Erica Mack-University of North Florida Administration. She verified that the credits,grades, and quality points
do indeed transfer and the overall GPA is determined by including the GPA's from ALL accepted classes. Also talked to Terry Schrader at the U. of South Florida and they calculate the GPA the same way. U. of Tennessee does NOT transfer the GPA IN.

Check with each individual school to see what their procedure is. GPA's DO transfer depending on the school.

Moc,
I think that would be a good conclusion, check with the school you wish to transfer too.

In general, most universities, particularly the fine academic institutions (not trying to comment on anyone's university), do not transfer the grade, but most do accept the credit hours assuming the course is legitimate. But these hours are generally omitted from the gpa calculation at the new institution, or there will be two calculations - one for courses completed (with a grade of D- or better, i.e., can be calculated) at the new institution and another for all courses attempted. However, as pointed out, there are exceptions to this practice. But, these are the exception to the rule.

If you think you may loose a scholarship due to this, it really isn't practical to think this as you last gpa is what it was when you left your previous institution, and your next gpa will be the end of semester gpa at the new institution. Most registrars will work with you to ensure that you maintain your scholarship or aid by writing you a letter to that effect.

Not trying to confuse the situation any more, but am a prof that has to deal with this on occassion.

Just an update-it appears that at my son's school-grades do not transfer. He just got his end of semester grades/ cumulative GPA and the Dual Credit grades (which were all B's that we were more than happy with at the time!) were not included luckily. I'm SOOOO thrilled to report my son finished his first semester at college with a 4.0!!

ORmom,

Congrats, that is fantastic! I have two sons in college, so I know how RARE a 4.0 is at that level.

Here in Minnesota, many colleges accept AP credits earned in HS, but it depends on the individual college. I was told that for all colleges in MN, the GPA does NOT transfer (either HS AP classes or transfers between colleges). And, regarding whether a college accepts credits from another college, that also varies. Some colleges accept only C or above, one I checked accepts only a C+ or above, while a few will accept credits from any class the student "passed" at an accredited college, if the class is comparable to a class offered at the new school.