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Jerry -
My son recently attended a PG showcase. Cost $500 and worth every cent. PG doesn't need another endorsement....but, this event was extremely well run, high quality facilities, great people who were very accessible throughout the entire event.

Easy to understand why PG is the 'standard' in the showcase business.

Thanks, Jerry, for running a first class organization.
 
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Jerry:
You have a PM
 
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Jerry you have a pm
 
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Jerry:

Obviously you're very passionate about what you've created and the fact it's about helping players realize their dreams.

Many people don't understand the difference between the terms "revenue" and "profit". They attend a camp or showcase, count the heads of the kids, multiplying them by the amount of the check they just wrote, and see nothing but big numbers. As you explained, it's not that simple.

I'm sure many of us can relate to having large personal incomes and yet barely being able to make our checkbook balance in the positive at the end of every month.

It's unfortunate to hear that PG is not in the black, because it deserves to be.

Keep up the good fight and the much needed service in which Perfect Game provides...
 
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PG,

It's just BEAR, not too many folks who've been around this site for long take him too seriously.
 
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Hello,

On a good note, did anybody recognize the local DC-Metro talented NY Met's RHP pitch and his 5+ shutout innings "W" tonight? Is this great!

On other notes, a friend of baseball, {and who saw the thread in question} phoned me and Bear about it.

The thread is easy for me to understand.

1. $500 for each player at a PG Showcase for two games at Univ of Maryland in October 2006 is excessive.

2. The thread in question is not slanderous
(as alleged), yet direct.

I have supported VA Tournament in Woodbridge since the early 1990's. My event collects $95 per player, 18-20 players per team, each team plays three games. I recognize several names within this thread. As a business woman, I am familiar with the term 'Cash Cow'. Mr. Ford has over-reacted, or simply does not understand the business term.

Mr. Tom Rizzi is very familiar with Sal C and the VA event. Conn Select attended in years past, yet following Mr. Rizzi interesting demeanor with Sal C, it was decided not to ask him nor the Conn Select back. First time in 15+ years that has happened. I recall Bear speaking on the Conn Select behalf, when hearing about this. Sal C stood firm.

The other responders have every right to offer their opinion. But this ageless baseball man is a territory leader, exchanges timely and accurate information with the HS's, scouts and college coaches, and is passionate about supporting our youth, and teenagers baseball careers.

Sincerely in baseball
BG
 
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Did the people that attended this event understand before going that it cost 500.00 to attend? I would hope they did. Are you actually saying that your 95.00 event is anyway on par with a PG event? You get what you pay for in life. You dont pay for games. You pay to be evaluated by the PERFECT GAME STAFF. I have camps that cost 125.00 for a week six hours a day. Games , pizza , t-shirts and loads of solid baseball instruction. That beats the heck out of your deal. Are you scamming people??? You still dont get it and you never will. There is an easy answer here. If you dont want to pay 500.00 to attend a PG showcase , be evaluated by the PG staff and see where you stack up JUST DONT GO. They can go to your camp and pay 95.00.
 
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BRENDA

Are you talking about the event a few years back when we refused to put our team on the road because your state was under a state of emergency due to a hurricane ? - The safety of our players and family is more important than a baseball game(s)-- "interesting demeanor" ??? lives and safety come first--- I made a judgement call and your people didn't agree with it
---so be it--it was my call and I would make the same call again --WITHOUT HESITATION~~~~


TRhit
 
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I hesitate to chime in again and keep this issue going.

But I think it is unfair when members who choose to remain anonymous at least in their public posts (in this case Bear, and new member BrendaGar with the same IP address), post harsh statements about other members who do publicly identify themselves (in this case PGStaff and TRhit). It just doesn't seem like a fair or level playing field.

Julie
 
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I agree totally with MN-Mom
 
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Brenda,

With all due respect, to compare your event to a PG event is like comparing apples and oranges. Your event and the time you and the other volunteers put in is commendable, and I am not going to question your altruistic intentions but in all honesty your $95.00 per team member is probably one of the more expensive team events for the value that you receive in regards to exposure. The work you have done in the name of your husband and his memory is beyond reproach.

I would actually suggest that you attend a PG event and see how the evaluating and showcasing has changed over the years. In fact based on what others have posted about Jerry from PG...he probably would welcome you at the event.


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Hello,

On a good note, did anybody recognize the local DC-Metro talented NY Met's RHP pitch and his 5+ shutout innings "W" tonight? Is this great!

On other notes, a friend of baseball, {and who saw the thread in question} phoned me and Bear about it.

The thread is easy for me to understand.

1. $500 for each player at a PG Showcase for two games at Univ of Maryland in October 2006 is excessive.

2. The thread in question is not slanderous
(as alleged), yet direct.

I have supported VA Tournament in Woodbridge since the early 1990's. My event collects $95 per player, 18-20 players per team, each team plays three games. I recognize several names within this thread. As a business woman, I am familiar with the term 'Cash Cow'. Mr. Ford has over-reacted, or simply does not understand the business term.

Mr. Tom Rizzi is very familiar with Sal C and the VA event. Conn Select attended in years past, yet following Mr. Rizzi interesting demeanor with Sal C, it was decided not to ask him nor the Conn Select back. First time in 15+ years that has happened. I recall Bear speaking on the Conn Select behalf, when hearing about this. Sal C stood firm.

The other responders have every right to offer their opinion. But this ageless baseball man is a territory leader, exchanges timely and accurate information with the HS's, scouts and college coaches, and is passionate about supporting our youth, and teenagers baseball careers.

Sincerely in baseball
BG
 
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MN-Mom,

It never is with this guy. Believe me.

I remember his "stuff" about the baseball moms on this site a year or two ago. He should have been thrown off the site IMO. Ignorant and insulting.

I remember his stuff about TRHit. Completely unfair and born out of ego and jealousy.

I am now aware of his latest stuff about PG and Jerry. A disgrace - you were right to wipe that delusional garbage out of here IMO.

And I will never forget his stuff about my eldest son.

He is a hack. Plain and simple.
IMO.


You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970

 
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I have attended a number of show cases this past year. I would recommend to parents to pick two show cases -- Perfect Game and Blue Gray --- that is all you need to attend to get your son in front of college scouts. The Battle of the Ship is a total waste of money and has limited scouts in attendance. Having your son play on a show case team like the one Chrongier (Patriots) runs is also a total waste of money and time.....beware of so called coaches who have never played the game... Just attend a Perfect Game and Blue Gray and your son will be seen by a good number of Division I and III college scouts.
 
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I agree completely about PG. My son went to two PG events, one before his junior year and one after, and that got him far more exposure (including to the college that he eventually signed with) than anything else he did. The PG evaluations are respected and thorough and most of all, honest. It was a very small price to pay for giving my son a chance to go to the school he wanted to go to and play baseball. PG runs a class operation and the baseball world knows it.
 
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In response to trepfan: I would say that any PG event is worth the money. They are truely first class and anything first class is expensive. Even so, I don't think anyone there is getting rich. The money is put back into making each event sucessful. I have not been as impressed with Blue-Gray. But opinions are like **** orifaces...everybody has one. Your opinion of Mike Chroniger smells like you pulled it out of yours. I grew up in a baseball family, I raised a baseball family, and I sure that my grandchildren will be baseball people too. Does this make me a baseball expert? No. But it gives me a pretty good frame of reference to evaluate others in the baseball business, and I've never met a better man than Mike Chroniger.
 
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Trepfan,
My Son did "Battle of the Ship" 2 years. There were tons of Schools there. He just signed a NLI with one of them. During the recruiting process their name came up from alot of other Colleges as well as the first place they had seen him. Maybe it doesn't help some kids but it certainly helped our Son.

The Fall Showcase team he played for helped to seal the deal too. So both are worth it in my opinion.

Mainly I do not feel there is a one size fits all with any Showcases. You have to do what feels best for your Son and what fits your budget.
 
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Prior Quote: "Our son just participated in the "Battle of the Ship" at Univ. of Md. He did fine, but have no idea if anything worthwhile will come of it... there were so many kids! At worst, it was a workout for a mere $95~ We may check out the Perfect Game one also at Md.in the fall. I hear they run a good showcase??? Does anyone ever get feedback from anyone that spotted your sons??? If you are not a pitcher, does anyone even look at you??? Please, anyone, educate us on the showcase business (and business it seems to be!!"

Totalling agree -- the "Battle of the Ship" is a clear example of what is WRONG with local so-called showcase baseball events. In my opinion, it was a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY! A real money maker -- politically staged and pre determined -- what happened was you had several hundred kids pay $95 each to stand around (for the most part) and then telephone call is made the following morning advising your kid has made it and to show up for the second day.....total waste of time --- only ones that benefit are the promoters --- The Perfect Game and the Blue Gray truely showcases the kids to a number of scouts -- the kids have ample time to show their talents and everyone participates in a game setting.
 
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