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This is just one example. Any comments on other situations are welcome.

R1 on first. Batter hits grounder to SS. SS throws to 2B who drops the ball. Other than record E4, what notation do you use so it is known 2B dropped the throw? And how would you note if the SS throw was bad other than E6?

I'm just trying to learn to make my book reflect more accurately what has occurred.
 
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bkekcs -

Other than E4 on the second baseman that's about it because it is assumed it indicates trouble in handling the ball. When there is a throwing error then I use TE6 for example.
 
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In the first example, I would mark an FC in the box for the batter. For the runner who advanced to second, I would draw a line from first to second, and mark "6-E4d" by second base. This indicates that the runner reached second due to a dropped throw by the second baseman, and shortstop is credited with an assist.

In the second example, I would do the same, except that now my notation by second base would be "E6t".

I use plain E6 for a fielding error, E6d for a dropped fly ball or dropped throw (if it's a dropped throw, there would usually have to be an assist as well, such as 1-E6d), and E6t for throwing error.
 
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JWC
Thanks for the input. I've given it a try over the past few games and it helps alot.
 
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Question for JWC32. In your example you state that the shortstop still gets credit for an assist. Is this the case even though no out occured?
 
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Yes. It is not necessary for an out to be recorded for there to be an assist.

OBR 10.10 Assists
(a) The official scorer shall credit an assist to each fielder who
(1) throws or deflects a batted or thrown ball in such a way that a putout results, or would have resulted except for a subsequent error by any fielder.

(previously listed under OBR as 10.11)

(NCAA and FED are the same rule, but have slightly different wording)

An assist can also be credited on a steal attempt, even if the out is not recorded due to a muffed throw, if the official scorer believes that the runner attempting to steal would have been out had the throw not been muffed (the runner would be charged with a caught stealing; i.e., "2-E4 CS", or "2-E4d CS"). OBR 10.07(f)

The best way to look at it is like this: if the shortstop fields a ball, and then throws it to the first baseman, who drops it and allows a runner to reach base (6-E3, or as in my notation, 6-E3d), then the shortstop has done his job; i.e., he fielded the ball, and threw a catchable ball to first base that should have resulted in a putout. When figuring Fielding Percentages, this counts in favor of the shortstop.
 
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