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Is a Passed Ball noted as an Error in the box score or do they maintain their seperate category?
 
Posts: 85 | Location: Merritt Island, Florida | Registered: March 24, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Passed ball is not designated as an error.

And when determining earned runs, you re-construct the inning w/o errors and w/o passed balls.

Point which may be of interest -- if the catcher obstructs the batter (commonly called catchers's interference), that DOES count as an error on the catcher, but the batter is not charged with an AB.

Hope that helps.
 
Posts: 239 | Location: North Texas | Registered: February 25, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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RPD is right and I hope I don’t step on his toes by expanding his comments but this is always a confusing point for many. The passed ball is not counted as an error and has its own category. Simply called ---- “PASSED BALLS”. The reasoning behind this is the catcher handles the ball many more times than any other player on the field and his miscue should not be ruled and error. While the scorekeeper doesn’t call it an error, the catcher looks at the passed ball as just as bad if not worse than an error. Frown
The passed ball does factor into the earned run/unearned run formula exactly as an error does ---- again as RPD stated. Why so? The passed ball is NOT the fault of the pitcher and a runner that scores as a result of a passed ball (that would NOT have scored without the PB) does not count against the pitcher and that run will be unearned. Not so for the wild pitch. Since the wild pitch IS the fault of the pitcher it DOES count against the pitcher and if a run scores because of a wild pitch that run will be recorded as an earned run. Second base is a lot less complicated. Big Grin
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Fungo -- great explanations. And as many little oddities as there sometimes seem to be with the rules and scorekeeping designations, when you really think about them, they pretty much do make good sense ... which is exactly what your post demonstrates.

Thanks!
 
Posts: 239 | Location: North Texas | Registered: February 25, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Fungo,

I'd bet Josh will argue with you about the passed ball he was charged with that missed his target by 4 feet. LOL.

Oh well, nobody said catching was easy and scorekeepers were fair. And you're right...a passed ball bothers a catcher alot more than that throw to 2nd that skipped and got by the SS allowing the runner to go to 3rd.

Very good explanations of passed ball and wild pitch.
 
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