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Runners on 1b and 2b. Batter bunts to 3b side. Pitcher fields bunt and attempts force at 3b. Runner is safe at third. Play was scored FC. I was thinking sac because that is clearly what the batter was trying to do.


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FC is correct call since the pitcher "chose" to try and make the play at 1b insetead of taking the out at 1b
 
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I don't think that you penalize the batter for the defense attempting to put out a preceding runner, the batter still got the job done. Score a sac bunt with advancement to first on FC. See 10.08b: Score a sacrifice bunt when, before two are out, the fielders handle a bunted ball without error in an unsuccessful attempt to put out a preceding runner advancing one base, unless, an attempt to turn a bunt into a putout of a preceding runner fails, and in the judgment of the official scorer ordinary effort would not have put out the batter at first base, in which case the batter shall be credited with a one-base hit and not a sacrifice;
 
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I agree it is BOTH a sac AND an FC.

Unless the runner could have been put out at third with ordinary effort, i.e., if there was an error involved in his being safe. Then there would be no sac, runner safe at third on the error, batter safe at first on FC with a charged AB. But absent an error, he gets credit for advancing the runner even if he's not put out in the process.
 
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I think, based on John's quoting of 10.08b, that we need more info about what happened. If ordinary effort would not have put the batter out, then it's neither a sac not an FC -- it's a single. So Patriot, can you provide us with a little more info?

Midlo & John, are you saying to credit the batter with both a SAC and a FC? Not sure how you do that, since one is 0-0, and the other is 0-1. I'd say that based on 10:08b, if there was no error involved it has to be either a SAC or a single.
 
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This is a SAC, reached on FC all the way.
 
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JMoff-- you have a PM.
 
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