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Which level does everyone put their knee savers? Why?

What is main difference between using lowest two links on shin guards, or moving it up to right behind the knee? thanks


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They are designed to go on the two lowest straps, so that when you squat you are almost sitting your rear end on them rather than by your knees: this is because if they are higher between your knees, they work as a wedge to pull at the joint.
Personally, I used knee savers from the time they came out until I transfered colleges and the coach here does not allow them. He says it contributes to making catchers lazy and does not allow you go squat all the way down.
My suggestion is to not wear them at all and build up leg/knee strength unless you have a medical reason to need them.
But if you do decide to wear them, use them on the two lowest straps.
 
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They are designed to go on the two lowest straps, so that when you squat you are almost sitting your rear end on them rather than by your knees: this is because if they are higher between your knees, they work as a wedge to pull at the joint.
Personally, I used knee savers from the time they came out until I transfered colleges and the coach here does not allow them. He says it contributes to making catchers lazy and does not allow you go squat all the way down.
My suggestion is to not wear them at all and build up leg/knee strength unless you have a medical reason to need them.
But if you do decide to wear them, use them on the two lowest straps.


Completely agree. Learn to do things correctly and you won't need to use or rely on them.
 
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----Some coach saying knee savers .....
"contributes to making catchers lazy and does not allow you go squat all the way down."

Clearly you can tell him personnally for me that he 'may just not know Jack'. You may also provide my tele # and this message about my knee savers.

My knee savers are soon coming within a new product named SUPARTZ. I have been calling it the Rooster Shots since the injected joint fluid originated in a cartilage of a Rooster (i.e. male chicken...no kidding.)

The Rooster shots claim to provide knee and joint relief for us retired catchers (and those with plenty of rug burns on our knees) and maybe provide osteorarthritis (ah-stee-oh-ar-THRY-tis) or OA, relief where acetaminophen, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory agents (NSAIDS) such as iburofen, and corticosteriods have not.

The humorous side of all this (if there is one) is do not try SUPARTZ if allergic to feathers, eggs and poultry (and some new versions are saying not to use statins.......I wonder if I should now fix the heart, first or the knees first......sounds like an old tyme chicken vs the egg....(had to go there)

I wonder if something will be coming out (and soon) for the ol'fashion 64 years of catcher's meniscus deterioration and often developing degenerative tears or when abnormally mobile piece(s) of meniscal fragments move and become caught between the femur and tibia joints (UGH). Or maybe to mend Articular cartilage issues or knee joint instability due to Medial collaterial ligament damage (or lateral collateral ligament or torn ACL (da football/hockey/skier injury)

Coc-a-doodle doo!

Regards
Bear

ps. Sing it Toby

"She said 'Hello, my name is Bobby Jo
Meet my twin sister Betty Lou
And we're both feeling kinda wild tonight
.....
.....
Now my body says 'You can't do this...'
But my pride says 'Oh, yes you can.'

I ain't as good as I once was
....
I still throw a few back, talk a little smack
When I'm feelin' bullet proof

...
Maybe not be good as I once was
But I'm as good once as I ever was


(But then, that coach may just not like country
...go figure!)
 
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I didnt start wearing them until half way through my freshman year.I feel it kept me more fresh during the game.

I wore them on the 2 straps nearest to the ground
 
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In the garbage.
 
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if you have knee problems in high school or college, then you are at the wrong position and should think about going to a corner infield position. balls skip through in the dirt and throws to second end up in the outfield, because your body isnt ready do anything,
 
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When it comes to knee savers, it's all about how you are taught to catch on whether or not they help or hurt. If you are taught how to receive, block, and throw properly they do not hinder a catcher one bit. If you can't do any of those three either you need to be coached up some, or you're using them improperly. I feel that coaches can use knee savers as an excuse for their not being able to communicate with a player about what they are doing wrong or right.

At the end of the day, it's all about comfort, so long as you can catch, block, and throw with or without them.

I don't care if my catchers use them or not. I used them up until my junior year of college, and I only stopped using them because I couldn't find a pair that fit my shin guards properly.

As for knee problems...I found that when I stopped using knee savers I personally spent more time in the training room than I did while I was using them. Did I have knee "problems"? No. But I did get much more sore and it helped to heat both legs (knees and lower thights) and get stretched out by a trainer before practice/games, and I would have to ice every day that I caught.

It's a personal preference that I don't feel that any coach can say that they won't allow their players to wear them. It's a decision that each player, parents, and eventually coach, needs to make based on their ability level and physical comfort, meaning how they feel after catching or even the day after catching. Now if a kid isn't catching properly it's on the coach to correct it.
 
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The coach that doesn't allow us to wear them has a very old school approach to coaching in general. He has a catching video out and here is his website:
http://www.catchingtips.com/

Do I necessarily agree with him saying that it made catchers lazy, no. But it is a mentality, if you're catching the right way, you're hardly every really sitting on them anyway...
 
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