Hi Girlfriends-got this today and I'd thought I'd share (just in case)
I was aware that female heart attacks are different, but this is the best description I've ever read.
Women and heart attacks (Myocardial infarction)
Did you know that women rarely have the same dramatic symptoms that men have when experiencing heart attack...you know, the sudden stabbing pain in the chest, the cold sweat, grabbing the chest & dropping to the floor that we see in the movies. Here is the story of one woman's experience with a heart attack.
"I had a completely unexpected heart attack at about 10:30 pm with NO prior exertion, NO prior emotional trauma that one would suspect might've brought it on. I was sitting all snugly & warm on a cold evening, with my purring cat in my lap, reading an interesting story my friend had sent me, and actually thinking, "A-A-h, this is the life, all cozy and warm in my soft, cushy Lazy Boy with my feet propped up." A moment later, I felt that awful sensation of indigestion, when you've been in a hurry and grabbed a bite of sandwich and washed it down with a dash of water, and that hurried bite
seems to feel like you've swallowed a golf ball going down the esophagus in slow motion and it is most uncomfortable. You realize you shouldn't have gulped it down so fast and needed to chew it more thoroughly and this time drink a glass of water to hasten its progress down to the stomach. This was my initial sensation---the only trouble was that I hadn't taken a bite of anything
since about 5:00 p.m.
"After that had seemed to subside, the next sensation was like little squeezing motions that seemed to be racing up my SPINE (hind-sight, it was probably my aorta spasming), gaining speed as they continued racing up and under my sternum (breast bone, where one presses rhythmically when administering CPR). This fascinating process continued on into my throat and branched out into both jaws.
"AHA!! NOW I stopped puzzling about what was happening--we all have read and/or heard about pain in the jaws being one of the signals of an MI happening, haven't we? I said aloud to myself and the cat, "Dear God, I think I'm having a heart attack !" I lowered the foot rest, dumping the cat from my lap, started to take a step and fell on the floor instead. I thought to myself "If this is a heart attack, I shouldn't be walking into the next room where the phone is or anywhere else.......but, on the other hand, if I don't, nobody will know that I need help, and if I wait any longer I may not be able to get up in moment."
"I pulled myself up with the arms of the chair, walked slowly into the next room and dialed the Paramedics... I told her I thought I was having a heart attack due to the pressure building under the sternum and radiating into my jaws. I didn't feel hysterical or afraid, just stating the facts. She said she was sending the Paramedics over immediately, asked if the front door was near to me, and if so, to unbolt the door and then lie down on the floor where they could see me when they came in.
"I then laid down on the floor as instructed and lost consciousness, as I don't remember the medics coming in, their examination, lifting me onto a gurney or getting me into their ambulance, or hearing the call they made to St. Jude ER on the way, but I did briefly awaken when we arrived and saw that the Cardiologist was already there in his surgical blues and cap, helping the medics pull my stretcher out of the ambulance. He was bending over me asking questions (probably something like "Have you taken any medications?") but I couldn't make my mind interpret what he was saying, or form an answer, and nodded off again, not waking up until the Cardiologist and partner had already threaded the teeny angiogram balloon up my femoral artery into the aorta and into my heart where they installed 2 side by side stints to hold open my right coronary artery.
"I know it sounds like all my thinking and actions at home must have taken at least 20-30 minutes before calling the Paramedics, but actually it took perhaps 4-5 minutes before the call, and both the fire station and St. Jude are only minutes away from my home, and my Cardiologist was already to go to the OR in his scrubs and get going on restarting my heart (which had
stopped somewhere between my arrival and the procedure) and installing the stints.
"Why have I written all of this to you with so much detail? Because I want all of you who are so important in my life to know what I learned first
hand."
1. Be aware that something very different is happening in your body not the usual men's symptoms, but inexplicable things happening (until my sternum and jaws got into the act ). It is said that many more women than men die of their first (and last) MI because they didn't know they were having one, and commonly mistake it as indigestion, take some Maalox or other anti-heartburn preparation, and go to bed, hoping they'll feel better in the morning when they wake up....which doesn't happen. My female friends, your symptoms might not be exactly like mine, so I advise you to call the Paramedics if ANYTHING is unpleasantly happening that you've not felt before. It is better to have a "false alarm" visitation than to risk your life guessing what it might be!
2. Note that I said "Call the Paramedics". Ladies, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE! Do NOT try to drive yourself to the ER--you're a hazard to others on the road, and so is your panicked husband who will be speeding and looking anxiously at what's happening with you instead of the road. Do NOT call
your doctor--he doesn't know where you live and if it's at night you won't reach him anyway, and if it's daytime, his assistants (or answering service) will tell you to call the Paramedics. He doesn't carry the equipment in his car that you need to be saved! The Paramedics do, principally OXYGEN that you need ASAP. Your Dr. will be notified later.
3. Don't assume it couldn't be a heart attack because you have a normal
cholesterol count. Research has discovered that a cholesterol elevated reading is rarely the cause of an MI (unless it's unbelievably high, and/or accompanied by high blood pressure.) MI's are usually caused by long-term stress and inflammation in the body, which dumps all sorts of deadly hormones into your system to sludge things up in there. Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep. Let's be careful and be aware. The more we
know, the better chance we could survive...
Posts: 542 | Location: Northern California | Registered: November 10, 2004
I knew the symptoms were different but had never heard about the jaw etc. Am going to pass this on to all my other women friends who may be in the same dark that I was in.
Mary Ann * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
What a great post. Thank you so much. I can actually see myself in this post because of the cat . And I can imagine having the same thoughts and symptoms. Over time you will probably save some lives for having shared this.
Ironic because I just was feeling so proud of myself, having lowered my cholesterol into normal range over the last year!
Posts: 692 | Location: California | Registered: January 02, 2003
Good tips and pointers as usually from ther Ladies Lounge!!!....thank you!!! Staying informed is key!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Play both sports until the competition convinces you otherwise!! " " ...because baseball is just GOOD PRACTICE FOR LIFE ".
Posts: 2966 | Location: Kansas | Registered: March 18, 2006
Well unfortunately I can now relate to this topic! I'm going to tell my story so hopefully more women will be informed about heart disease and how it manifests itself differently with women.
Monday night (after working my concession shift at the JV HS baseball game), I started having pain between my shoulder blades (like a knife in my back), both arms ached, my breastbone hurt, my teeth hurt, etc. and I could not get comfortable no matter what I did. I took Tums, Rolaids, Bayer Asprin, etc. with no relief. I had not eaten dinner so I was praying it was indigestion - was dreaming about that "purple pill" which I did not have.
My husband called our internist that morning and took me into see him. He did an EKG and that did not show any major changes - he thought that there was only a 20% chance it was my heart but he sent me to the ER and had a cardiologist meet me there. After viewing the EKG from the ER, the ER (male) and the cardiologist (male) also did not think it was my heart but wanted to keep me there to find out the results of the blood enzyme levels and to run a treadmill test the next day.
At this point, we are ready to check me out - son has a game that night, I was feeling a little better, then the ER doc comes in and says "I was wrong - the blood tests show an elevation in the enzymes that relate to the heart." Immediately to the ICU I go!! No baseball game for us! (they won by the way without us!)
I am one lucky gal! I had a heart cath the next morning - showed a blockage - had the angioplasty and a stent put in. I immediately felt better!
I got to come home the very next day (last night) and have already walked 20 minutes this morning due to the doc's orders! Technology is amazing!
So gals, my cholesterol levels were ok - my good cholesterol is low, I had already lost 30 pounds this year trying to get healthier (hurts my feelings that this happened), but years of abuse and family history I guess took its toll.
Only bad news is that my son was supposed to have his spring signing on April 11th at school that got cancelled due to me in the hospital - he is going to play D2 ball at Colorado School of Mines and study engineering. We are thrilled for him!
Another funny side note for you baseball moms - the ER nurse at our Texas hospital has a son that is playing D2 ball in Nebraska! They had just moved to Texas and were missing their son. He started out at a D1 school and since transferred to a D2 school and likes it better - felt going to a D1 was like having a fulltime job. Amazing how baseball ties people together!
So - don't ignore those symptoms! I am feeling so blessed today and thankful! I even get to go to my son's game tonight!
Posts: 303 | Location: Texas | Registered: November 24, 2006
curveball07-Thank God you caught this in time! I am sorry it happened but glad you are okay. Sending prayers your way from Northern California. You are blessed.
Posts: 542 | Location: Northern California | Registered: November 10, 2004
Prayers of thanksgiving and praise from So Cal for the diligence of the medical staff and what appears to be (hopefully) a rather rapid recovery.
Please stay healthy and enjoy the rest of your son's ride.
Funny, the ER nurse said her son felt like playing baseball at a D1 was like a full time job with the academics and sports, can't even imagine what your son will feel like getting his degree in engineering AND playing baseball. Engineering students always amaze me because there is so much work. Best wishes to him as he pursues two very worthwhile goals. You and Mr Curveball must be doing a great job ...
Mary Ann * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
curveball07, Just curious-where in Texas are you? I know two families whose sons will be playing baseball at Colorado School of Mines as well. Just wondering if I know you
Posts: 175 | Location: Texas | Registered: January 05, 2005
Curveball07 - So gald to hear that you're on the mend. Congrats too on loosing 30 lbs!! That's awesome and not easy to do!! EKGs, while a valuable tool as a piece of a puzzle, do not give definative information about "heart attacks" or heart disease. They can be a clue and it's good to have one as a baseline after age 40. So, very glad to hear that you were provided the appropriate care and follow up. Take care of yourself and let us know how you're doing!
Posts: 5352 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: December 30, 2004
Wow! Your post was shocking but very, very helpful. It is so important for women to be able to read first-hand accounts of real heart attack symptoms so we don't think "no, it couldn't be" when it really is!
Very best wishes to you for continued recovery and good health.
Julie
Posts: 3607 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: January 04, 2003
Curveball,...it happened to one of our own!! Oh my goodness.
Sooo glad you are ok. I really want to thank you for sharing your story with us. Brings reality into perspective.
Continue staying healthy & recovering,...and enjoy those baseball games!! You are a true baseball mom from head to toe!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Play both sports until the competition convinces you otherwise!! " " ...because baseball is just GOOD PRACTICE FOR LIFE ".
Posts: 2966 | Location: Kansas | Registered: March 18, 2006
Small world here on hsbbweb.com! I do know curveball07 and had not heard a thing about this-of course it just happened but usually I'd have known. Imagine hearing about it on a national website when we only live a few miles apart! Curveball07 was at her son's game on Friday.
Curveball07, I'll see you in a week at our game!
Posts: 175 | Location: Texas | Registered: January 05, 2005