What muscles you use and the way you use them, provides your power and your balance in your swing....

Where the power should come from and what balance is, is where the disagreements stem from....This search is where it's at, IMO......Because, rhythm and timing is a combination of power and balance....

This is why I'm against hitting off a tee....It's, also, why I believe a player needs to be able to hit some homeruns to have an efficient swing....

If a hitter is getting power and balance from the wrong muscle source, he will never reach his hitting potential....

Know where and how you are balancing and where your power source is....If someone asks you, can you answer them?

Some of the best hitters were not home run hitters---is that not true?

Which of the "best hitters" have never hit at least one or two Homeruns in a season? Just curious as I do not know the answer to the question. I think that the point is, if you have good batspeed and a good approach at the plate you will put a few out each year by accident, if for no other reason.

This is a tee swing...No upper body control....A swing developed on a tee without the benefit of rhythm and timing.....Balance in this hitter comes from the legs and no power....

BlueDog:
I've certainly respected your knowledge and posts over the years, but that is NOT a "tee swing". IMO, it is just the opposite. If that kids spent a few hours hitting off a tee, the bat path would definitely be corrected...at the very least.

I agree, That swing would hit the tee, not the ball, and actually could improve with some tee work to correct that issue at least...

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If that kids spent a few hours hitting off a tee, the bat path would definitely be corrected...at the very least.

Lester, the bat path is not this kid's problem.....

I copied the picture and added a tee to show how the bat would hit the tee with that swing. Unfortunately, I'm not technically saavy to add it...

Bat paths look similar to me....

Would this bat hit the tee?

There is a major difference in what these two hitters are doing.....Hitting off a tee promotes what one of them is doing....And, it has to do with rhythm and timing....

Lester and Floridafan, do you know what it is?

You know that I disagree with your assesment of the Tee for teaching mechanics and I really don't want to post the same clips of my son again but feel it relevant.I would agree with you if the ONLY hitting that was done was on a tee,but I don't think anyone teaches solely with a tee.


AND,those bat paths look quite different to me.The kid is dropping his hands and dragging the bat.I also feel the tee could be used to help fix it.

I really think for a 9 year old that tee works has done well for him.


Is this a tee swing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoFVrwkPAzc


Or this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjeotQgQtU

Tfox, can you answer the question I asked Lester and Floridafan?

No one can,it might it might not.He is referring to the bat coming up from under the ball causing the bat to be on the bottom of the ball,atleast that is my take on it.


My son hits the tee plenty but he is coming in from behind the ball,not under and still hitting,for the most part,the center of the ball.


I would assume the bat would hit the tee in the pic by just a little assuming he hits the ball dead center.

Tfox, how 'bout the other question?....What is the major difference in the two swings I posted?

I am not into your riddles,I can say there are some obvious things he is doing that can be fixed on a tee,the dropping the hands and dragging the bat.There are simple drills for that,he actually is doing a decent job with his hips,some tee work with the right instructor can help him.

It is clear he isn't getting the separation you like to speak of but not sure if that has a darn thing to do with your question.

There is quite a bit different but a tee swing it is not.It is a young hitters swing that needs some more worrk.

One is hitting home run 7xx. The other popping the ball up so his brother can go get a free snow cone for returning the ball to the snack shack.

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Originally posted by BlueDog:
Tfox, I won't discuss your son's hitting.......

I will say, I know there are some here who have tried to help you understand hitting by way of private discussions and have given up....

You even got the bat path post wrong....

I have every pm ever sent me and those pm's don't exist.I have asked you direct questions in pm's and you refereed me to someone else's info.

I have gotten some great info from coachb25 in pm's helping me with my daughter.

How am I wrong,is he not dropping his hands to swing up from under the ball or is he not dragging the bat.


BOF hit the nail on the head.

Hi Tfox, my two cents on what I see. There is not to much wrong with the bat plan..in my opinion.

However he has an aweful case of bat drag and I also see that he pulling the bat with his front should, witness the straightened lead front elbow, as opposed to getting his bat to the zone by turning his hips, creating seperation and then swinging.

Just what I see.

Regards, Mike

I have found that the triceps and forearms cause the best swing.

Any extension of the arms requires these muscles acting in concert.

Generating power would be further aided by the weight shift and hip turn.

Tension is the enemy of speed.

Swing fast, not hard.