This is a phrase I heard recently, but wasn't sure what it meant. Previoulsy, I'd heard that a short, quick stroke was good, lwhich made sense to me. Could any one here explain what this means and, if anybody has a video clip which demonstrates it, I'd love to see it posted.

I THINK I know what is meant by "short to zone," but I'm particularly baffled by the "long though zone" phrase.

Many thanks for your help!

I would act like I never heard it and move on.

That's how much value it has.

Yeah I didn't find this cue that helpful to me either. But basically it means the swing starts off short, and ends up 'long' in the follow through.

It means keeping your barrel through the strike zone. When we teach short stroke, sometimes players tend to be quick in the zone and then quick out of the zone. You want to be short to the ball and then long through the ball with your barrel. It creates back spin and line drives. The best hitters in the game stay through the ball with thier hands and barrel.

if it is not mainataining the box through the early part of the rotation then I would leave it alone too.

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Originally posted by bubandbran:
It means keeping your barrel through the strike zone. When we teach short stroke, sometimes players tend to be quick in the zone and then quick out of the zone. You want to be short to the ball and then long through the ball with your barrel. It creates back spin and line drives. The best hitters in the game stay through the ball with thier hands and barrel.

Hogwash.

How can you be quick to the zone and long through it?

Two ways: Slow down once you get there.....or lengthen the path to stay in it longer (disconnect).

Neither is good.

The cue is meaningless.

Listen, I played in the major leagues and played professonally for 11 years. I have played along side Miguel Tejada, Todd Helton, Miguel Cabrera, David Ortiz, just to name a few. Edgar Martinez told me personally in Spring Training to use my hands to stay through the ball with my barrell. When you are quick in the zone and then quick out, you top a lot of balls, which produce weak ground balls. Staying through the ball produces back sping line drives. It is a technique, that professional players work hard to perfect. But a young player can do it and work on it as well. Good luck.

I notice instead of addressing the two scenarios that your cue creates, neither of them advantageous, you instead choose to puff your chest.

Please address how you get there quickly yet stay there longer.

BTW, my mother loved a 10" frying pan......should I use a 10"er even if there is a bigger pan now?

When I think about "short thru the zone" i am thinking about what we call "hook barrel". Basically not extending the follow-thru towards the pitcher... (good view of proper extension in the Chipper Jones clip) but instead extending towards the dugout. This is a major flaw that I see in young kids learning to rotate. ok Linear I got brave and spoke...am I out of my mind?

Welcome bubandbran,

Please continue... Chest thumping is allowed! I read lots of it here! You deserve our respect.

Reading your bio, I bet you have hit against my son at some point in your career.

The term "short to and long thru" can be called "staying on the ball" or some define this as the word "extension". None of these words are used by some of the folks here.

You will find yourself agreeing with 95% of what is said, but being torn apart unless you eat it all up "100%".

Feel free to email or PM me if you want to - pgjerry@qwest.net

Mr. Linear, don't get bitter. I am not puffing my chest, there are just many of you that don't have a clue of what you are talking about, and young players read these forums and they need to know what is hogwash, and what isn't. And, who the source of the hogwash is. That is all. In a perfect swing, if the end of the bat were glowing in the dark, you should see a half moon type pattern. TO do this you would need to stay through the ball. If you didn't the end the glowing bat would look like more of angle pattern. I hope that picture makes sense. I am happy to help and be a resource. Not puffing. 11 years of pro ball, I lost my ego a long time ago.

bubandbran,

Welcome. Look forward to your opinions, ideas and suggestions. Hope you enjoy our site.

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Originally posted by bubandbran:
...In a perfect swing, if the end of the bat were glowing in the dark, you should see a half moon type pattern...

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Linear

At least when bubandbran pumps his chest there is substance and meat to what he says--you have never even come close--the man has a background do you?

I am with PG and Its--bub come on and keep it coming--

Linear....I understand what you are saying about staying connected... but when I think of extension i'm not talking about hands/arms extending b4 contact but elbows extending at follow through towards the pitcher. Is this an outdated "hit three balls" approach? Watching clips I see MLB players getting extension in the follow thru towards the pitcher...??

Linear, all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. Good posture doens't mean you a good hitter. I have seen plenty of players with bad posture and great hands hit in the big leagues. Don Mattingly, terrible posture, incredible hands. Hands are the key to a good hitter. Tony Gwynn, horrible posture, great hands. I been around the game my whole life and I have never heard of anyone say that good posture makes a good hitter. Sorry.

Welcome troy99

I think things might liven up a bit around here!

That would clearly depend on the civility of the conversation.

its,

I gotta be honest with you. I don't agree with everything Linear says. I don't like the fact that he gets a bit personal with cutting remarks in his replies.

I tend to like everyone, but sooner or later we have to recognize what's going on. Linear IS NOT the only one making the cutting remarks! I know because I read a lot of what's written!

You are kidding right?

Would you like me to put his drug reference back in the post? You think that is appropriate and should remain?

I am out. You can do it. And I promise - I wont criticize your judgement.

Good luck.