I beleieve Chameleon is on the mark when he said the shoulders need to be relaxed during the forward swing...Take the tension out of the shoulders to allow the bat to float and the hands to torque....

And, I believe Tom is correct in saying "arm action is King"....The back arm action in swinging a bat needs to reflect the same back arm action as in throwing....

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Originally posted by BlueDog:
And, I believe Tom is correct in saying "arm action is King"....The back arm action in swinging a bat needs to reflect the same back arm action as in throwing....

I'd have to agree.

More importantly, the torquing is not random. How they torque when coming out of forward tilt is sending a signal to the upper body when to "go", and how to tilt the shoulders. The shoulder tilt then clears the way for the back arm to slot properly for rear hand swivel.

Noreaster,

I spent some good, quality time with ITS yesterday. That was fantastic standing there in person, talking baseball with Its In The Game!
He is the "real deal" and it is easy to understand why his sons have so much passion and desire to play the game of baseball! His son Kyle looked really talented out there in CF, hitting and running the bases. He has gifts, just like his older brother.

TRHit was all over Jupiter! Man oh man, he was busy! I did get to meet him however, and gave him a card, as well.

Looks like the Red Sox Nation are gonna sail on to the World Championship! You better savor the moment brother cause the NYY are getting ready to re-establish an era of dominance starting in 2008!

peace my brother & board,
Shep

XV good clips but remember the best part to compare is that the hip should be opening by the time the back arm externally rotates in both the swing and the throw. Nothing wrong with where you froze but taking the clips ahead another frame or two you'll see what I am talking about. Zumaya is really getting some serious separation there huh?

Several members are very upset that I'm allowed to post in the hitting forum and so, I've tried to limit any activity here. However, I do have a few thoughts I'll share and then I'll be scarce around these parts again.


OK, so I'm going to confess that I'm really tired and not thinking right. Basketball tends to do that to me. I see the scapula loaded in every example presented. Pronk says that we should advance the pics one or two frames to see what we should see. I just know what I see it these frames and the amount of time between these pics and any progress is a matter of tenths of a second. I don't know that the thought process is telling the arms etc. to do anything after the presented clips.

If I'm right in assessing what I see and if we have to advance a few more frames to get to what is important, then, all of the stuff that came before is not as important if I catch Pronk's point of view correctly. (Again, I admit I'm not thinking straight at this moment.) Of course, I'm sure the error of my ways will be pointed out. :-)

Coach I don't want to imply it's not all important. What I am trying to point out to XV is to illustrate is the winding of the rubberband -- sync the external rotation of the back arm and lead leg, is very important.

In throwing this would imply when the hand is coming to high ****, the front hip should have separated. In hitting this would be when you see the barrel going rearward as the back elbow is going down, the hips should have separated by that time.

XV's clips do show the back arm internally rotated at the same time though.

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Originally posted by BlueDog:
I beleieve Chameleon is on the mark when he said the shoulders need to be relaxed during the forward swing...Take the tension out of the shoulders to allow the bat to float and the hands to torque....

And, I believe Tom is correct in saying "arm action is King"....The back arm action in swinging a bat needs to reflect the same back arm action as in throwing....

Would someone mind explaining to me exactly what is meant by "floating" the bat? I've tried to figure it out on my own, but I must be missing something because I'm just not sure. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks

Here you go Emanski! This ones floating... Not sure what model hes using though...

Now that's funny and I know...