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If you only saw how all over the place Coach Farr was this summer. Your statement is dead wrong.

Its not the point of being around the area to recruit they don't recognize talent. I don't know about Farr bt Rupp is the problem. If your not 6ft 3 or better he doesen't take an interest. They do have talent on the team. Rupp worries to mch about size and not heart and talent.

I would love to see MD be competitive in the ACC. It would be nice to have a good rivalry between UVA and MD. I agree that Farr was all over the place,,,of course he was the only coach from MD I did see on the road. I think I saw Rupp once at a Team One or PG event but don't remember for sure.

In the past the University did not seem to support the program, hopefully that has or will change. Nothing against Rupp but when a program that wants to compete is unsuccessful year after year in conference, changes need to occur...starting with the university's commitment to the sport.

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Terp Fan,

I wish as much as anybody that MD Baseball would get to the point where they can compete for ACC Titles. The reality though is the program is one of the worst in the ACC. I still don't think they are fully funded which makes it very tough to compete in the ACC. I am not sure that the right man is at the helm of the program either. That is just my view though, I could be wrong. I really respect Coach Farr, I think very highly of him. MD is getting kids from in state, but I think the top talent leaves the state or goes somewhere else to often. Wish that would change. GO TERPS

You are being too kind. It isn't one of the worst it is the worst. Md. is a team playing in the ACC. It is not an ACC quality team.

I also think to some extent they get good players but they don't know what to do with them. As far as recruiting goes they are just lazy. They could get more by just picking up the phone.

As far as fully funded goes - that isn't the problem. If South Carolina wasn't fully funded they would still get great players to go.

Lazy with recruiting? If you only saw how all over the place Coach Farr was this summer. Your statement is dead wrong.

I didn't say that the man was lazy. I am saying that his method of recruiting is lazy. The program speaks for itself.

Scout10 - I've never seen Coach Farr as a "lazy" recruiter. Whenever I talked to him during the spring or summer, he always said he's on his way back home from seeing a player in South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, etc.

And Kss8890, you don't have to be above 6'3 to be recruited by Maryland. Do you think Pat Blair (Calvert Hall 09 SS) isn't being recruited by Coach Rupp? Pat's probably 5'10, maybe 5'11, and he is definitely getting attention from the UMd staff.

Work smarter not harder. Why go to Va. or North Carolina when there are a lot of home grown kids that could play at Maryland. Why can't they get more local kids to sign at Maryland?

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Scout10 - I've never seen Coach Farr as a "lazy" recruiter. Whenever I talked to him during the spring or summer, he always said he's on his way back home from seeing a player in South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, etc.

And Kss8890, you don't have to be above 6'3 to be recruited by Maryland. Do you think Pat Blair (Calvert Hall 09 SS) isn't being recruited by Coach Rupp? Pat's probably 5'10, maybe 5'11, and he is definitely getting attention from the UMd staff.

I have been to many games and showcases where the top talent from Md has been. There is also top talent from other states there as well. No one that I know has seen Farr at one of them in 2 years.

I have seen coaches from VMI, Radford, Virginia Tech, Coastal, UNC Greensboro, Florida International, Florida State, Towson, UMBC, Virginia, Winthrop, High Point, West Virginia, James Madison, and VCU. These guys all seem to be working hard to find players for their programs. Harder then anyone from U of Md.

I have never seen Rupp or Farr at any of these things unless it is at their field. I think that parents and players would be in shock if Farr showed up at a game.

I saw Farr at games in the Richmond, VA area last year.

Maybe he just feels more comfortable with the relationships he built with VA coaches while at W&M.

Or maybe he thinks the talent pool is richer down here?

No doubt that the talent pool is a little deeper down near W & M, but there are a lot of kids from Maryland playing at Virginia and Carolina schools.

What happen that he left a head coach job to become the pitching coach at Maryland?

Sometimes a coach who applies for a job opening while at one school will get the admin at current school upset by pursuing career advancement possiblities. Sometimes it leads to a coach being shown the door at his current school, warranted or not. The guy is well thought of and will likely be Md's head coach if things don't turn around there soon.

My opinion is that coach Farr works very hard as a recruiter he was all over the place this summer at multiple tournaments and showcases.....but where UMD lacks in recruiting is not following up with kids. I have heard stories from players saying that UMD called one day and then never called again.

If I was UMD in my mind I would be thinking that I want to keep the best players from MD in state because they are not fully funded they can get more quality players for less money.I mean UMD is a good school it has a nice campus and great academics, so its not the schools fault they don't get players(except not fully funding,but they are getting more each year). Also UMD needs to get some better facilities for ACC they are lacking. Their coaches office is Trailer.

University of Maryland not being fully funded. In the ACC! A huge hole to start from. Personally, that is all I would need to hear to scratch them off my son's list. It doesn't matter what caliber player you are, that effects all the players from the stud to the walk on; and obviously the facilities and academic support.

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Scout10 - I've never seen Coach Farr as a "lazy" recruiter. Whenever I talked to him during the spring or summer, he always said he's on his way back home from seeing a player in South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, etc.

And Kss8890, you don't have to be above 6'3 to be recruited by Maryland. Do you think Pat Blair (Calvert Hall 09 SS) isn't being recruited by Coach Rupp? Pat's probably 5'10, maybe 5'11, and he is definitely getting attention from the UMd staff.

Does anyone really think Pat Blair will end up at Maryland even if he is being recruited? Of course not. Moot point.

Maryland is doing pretty well so far this year. Maybe you guys need to ease up a bit. They may not be UNC, but they don't look like doormats right now, either.

I think everyone will be pleasantly suprised with the recruiting class that Coach Farr has assembled for next year. I know he has been very responsive to any calls suggesting potential recruits. I know of a number of kids who have received letters after their names were suggested to him and he had a chance to observe them himself.

You have to realize that a potential recruit not only wants scholarship money, an area which Maryland is not fully funded, they also want a chance to win as well. If you look at the kids who are leaving Maryland that the Terps staff are really interested in, the majority were headed to winning programs within the ACC with a monetary commitment by the school to improve or continue the quality of their program.

Do you think that a UVA or Vanderbilt in the SEC would have built their programs up from being league doormats without a huge influx of dollars to build state-of-the-art facilities to impress recruits or fully fund their programs to show the commitment of the school to improve?

The Maryland staff is doing what it can with the tools that they have been given by their administration. You can blame the staff to a degree, but they are playing catch up with the majority of the ACC. Even Boston College is building a new baseball facility.

One such bright spot for the Terps incoming class:
Maryland Recruit Sander Beck of Severn pitched a complete game no-hitter against Severna Park HS Saturday, striking out 8. Was throwing 88-90 on the stalker gun and mixed his pitches well.
We can keep hoping that things begin to turn around for the Maryland program. It takes a special kid to go to a program like Maryland's and turn down potentially "better options" to try to be part of building a more competitive program.
Maybe if more kids like Sander commit to the Terps then some additional standout in-state talent will do so as well to begin a turn-around like the two schools I mentioned earlier.