How is this for coach etiquette....

Runners on 2nd and 3rd and there is a pitching change and when play resumes the team on the bases switches runners?, and then after a strike out, the team in the field is throwing the ball around and the 3rd basemen missed the ball and it lands 1 foot from the 3rd base coach and he wont pick it up, he makes the 3rd basemen walk over from the mound to pick it up. Nice job TT....

U guys should be proud of the fact the Sparks/Copp are another option up there and they do things with class.

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the team in the field is throwing the ball around and the 3rd basemen missed the ball and it lands 1 foot from the 3rd base coach and he wont pick it up, he makes the 3rd basemen walk over from the mound to pick it up.

It's a live ball. He can't pick it up.

On second thought, you probably shouldn't have (I'm assuming) two situations so closely tied there. If there are runners on base, I would hope the defense isn't throwing the ball around..

Bulldog, my fault for not breaking them two up...no when the ball landed by the coach there were no runners and that team in field just had a strikeout and was throwing around horn. Throw from2nd to 3rd guy at mound just went off his glove and landed right next to the coach and he just looked at it and finally the 3rd basemen walked over to get it. Just alot of behavior not needed.

The switching of runners is unacceptable and not only bush league, the parents of that team should be embarrassed.

kid should pick up the ball himself. He dropped it, why can't he jog over and get it, i see kids that are lazier and lazier every year. There are alot of coaches that are bush league though especially at the age of 16 and up. It's not little league anymore, the coaches shouldn't be distracting the batter, talking trash about the other team, having the runner on 3rd sprint down the line clapping his hands, etc. See it all the time and your not teaching the kids how to play the game the right way.

Nails your saying if a ball was at your feet and the player was 25/30 feet away, dead ball no runners you wouldnt pick it up for the kid and toss back? is that what your saying? The ball was less than a foot from the coaches foot in the 3rd base coaching box and the 3rd basemen was at the pitching mound. Give me a break...talk about lazy, a coach cant bend over and throw a ball back and have some common sportsmanship.

Also what is your opinion on the switching runners? I notice you dont mention this cause your only answer could be that is horse**** and you know it.

You also misspoke when you say (your not teaching) you meant coaches in general are not teaching and you perfectly described the lack of class presented by the coach in question. Switching runners is an inexcusable offense and again they should be embarrassed.

Nails...answer this...you mention a bunch of things kids do, answer what the coach taugh his players by bringing them together during a pitching change and told them to switch places? and they did it? What exactly was taugh....

Who was the third base coach you are talking about ?

I am not mentioning names of individuals however a quick read would provide you the answer.

An all D1 Infield, Picher, Catcher and Center Fielder...JUCO D1 Right Fielder and you need to switch runners on the bases?. Inexcusable!

If changing runners, running trick plays on the basepaths and not picking up a ball is the worst coaching etiquette we have going on, then we have a bunch of angels out there coaching.

Fill me in...what's wrong with changing a baserunner? Is it any worst than a coach or manager stalling when getting a pitcher warmed up?

Sounds to me like some people that just don't like each other.

What part of this am I not making clear...

I dont have the runners numbers handy but #24 was on 2nd base and #12 was on third base. The team on the bases was losing.

The team in the field made a pitching change and while the new pitcher was warming up, the runners were standing with the 3rd base coach. After the new pitcher got his throws, the runners went back to their bases, but #24 went to 3rd base and #12 went to 2nd base. The reason was #12 was faster and they needed him to score from 2nd which they must have felt #24 couldnt do on a hit. They were down by 2 runs when this happened.

Maybe the runners simply changed jerseys. Better yet, why didnt the opposing coaches determine this and then what do the rules state?

They didnt change jersey's as you know, they cheated. The opposing coaches did not catch it until after they scored, in fact a inning later.

Pretty typical of this forum to have blantant cheating and people blaming the other team for not catching it.

Apparently this type of stuff is commenplace in certain areas..cause not one person would go against a certain organization and say you are correct this is HORSE****. Not only did the coach cheat, he got his players to buy into it! AND CHEAT.

Was this one of your sons?, or you know the runners?. I mean how can you possibily condone this behavior.

Not commentating on people or organizations.

At our games, the parents watch pretty closley. I am amazed no one picked it up while it was happeneing. Isn't it like batting out of order and an automatic out? Seems like a major and not too smart of a risk in such a close game in that situation. But, it obviously worked.

I agree with Tnhn11 on the ethics and what it teaches kids. My son's friend hit out neihbor's car Friday night. The kid drove away without leaving a note. My son didn't want to snitch, but knew the friend had to fess up. It took a day, but he got the kid to call our neihbors. Sports teach life lessons. I Wonder if #12 nad #24 would leave a note?

If that switch was on purpose, there is no excuse. One could only hope that it wasn't intentional....hard to believe as it seems.

You cant see the numbers of runners on base taking lead offs and who watches as they break huddle and run back to the base.

Fastball - ask yourself a simple question, if you were on 2nd base and went to 3rd base to talk with your coach and the time is back in and you have to return to your base...under what circumstance would you not remember what base your on, and even better 2 baserunners and a coach had to forget in order for that to happen. There is no excuse, it is cheating, bush league baseball.

It is okay to admit one of your own might have an ethics problem.

When it was realized, what transpired from there? Who ended up winning the game? Was there a protest?

When this happened the score was 5-3 and they tied it, the game went into extra innings and the team who pulled the switching of runners won in 9 or 10 innings. The switching of runners did not win them the game, hitting good fastballs did.

Once the run scored and the next pitch is thrown I believe you cannot appeal?,

I know there there are alot of parents from this team on this forum, and I would be doing some serious thinking and wondering if you have to cheat cause the coach is getting nervous, is it worth it.

tnhn11: why infer to me? i have no interest in this other than this board. You just said BLATANT....sounds like someone pulled one over on your coaches. Bet it wont happen again. I AGREE, I WOULD NEVER WANT MY KID TO PLAY FOR THAT TYPE OF A COACH OR PROGRAM. PERIOD.

It just seems you were making excuses for them.

You are correct that will not happen again.

Thank you for being honest.

You state that you could not see the runners uni numbers while they were on base---if this was the case how do you know they changed bases?

I find it odd that you were the only one to notice this if it in fact happened---where were the fielders ?---were they sleeping? Where were your teams coaches? where they also sleeping?

TNHN..

I'm not a coach so I'm not protecting anyone. In error I thought you were saying it was bush to put in a PR after a pitching change. It would never occur to me that someone would reverse the positions of the baserunners.

I still think that the other complaints in this thread questioning "baseball etiquette" were shakey at best. Just because a coach is a jerk doesn't mean it is bad baseball etiquette.