Originally posted by itsrosy: If it makes you and your fellow ws fans forget about the current state of your team, by looking at pictures from the Championship year, or bashing the Cubs, so be it.
Why would we look at pictures rosy when we can relive the moment gathered around the radio and listen to the rebroadcast?
"Uribe fields Palmeiro's low hop grounder on the run and fires over to Konerko for the last out... another dismal and disappointing game for Cub fans everywhere!"
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Posts: 11329 | Location: western suburbs of Chicago | Registered: June 07, 2005
TPM....Most (98%) fans are unaware that our 2 teams played each other for more than 25 years in a "City Series" which, in Chicago, overshadowed the World Series!
Of course the Sox beat the day lights out of the cubs repeatedly until the cubs called it quits in 1942 after losing 8 City Series in a row!
Posts: 3326 | Location: River Forest | Registered: January 12, 2004
TPM, Baseball is all about celebrating the past. See posts on the Hall of Fame. The steroid issue is as much about the integrity of the records (great feats of the PAST) as it is anything else. What good is a championship pennant if you can't run it up the flagpole? Why retire numbers of great players? We'll see how quick fans of other teams forget about the WS championship if htey were ever to get one.
Posts: 744 | Location: north suburbs | Registered: September 26, 2005
Why is it when the Cubs have a bad season, the fans desire improvement from either the players, manager, general manager, and/or the owner and when the Sox have a bad season their fans point fault at another team? I have decided that I am going to adopt this wierd philosophy. Whenever the Cubs underachieve, I am going to make fun of the Royals from now on.
Here, like most places revisionists seem to believe that if you say it often enough it becomes true.
I need to understand that the main ingredients to being a sox fan are 1. Worrying about The Cubs and 2. Clinging to history that includes a mediocre record at best (usually teams that celebrate a great history have a great history) 3. See #1 after thinking about #2.
Once I understand this, I'll have a much easier time understanding these dudes who otherwise seem to be good people.
Posts: 2341 | Location: Chicago Il USA | Registered: February 13, 2004
In baseball, history is EVERYTHING and...as a Cardinal fan it should be paramount in your mind since they are the # 2 team of all time.
Just like the cubs are 2nd best in Chicago, now and all-time.
Just like the NL is 2nd best now and all-time.
CWS = Chigaco White Sox
I know I was kidding you, FWIW, I am a Card fan by relation, I am actually just learning about the Cardinal Nation, well you know, in case I have to go to STL someday. Pretty neat stuff on them, and I do love the color red!
But here is something interesting I learned, applies to the Card Nation, maybe as well as Cub and WSox nation. The reason they have such a following is way before expansion they were the farthest western teams, making them the only teams. Marlins have zip nation, but they are fun to watch.
Forget the potholes in the road and celebrate the journey instead...anonymous
Posts: 13557 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Originally posted by FastballDad: I need to understand that the main ingredients to being a sox fan are ... Clinging to history that includes a mediocre record at best ...
If only Cubs fans had something to cling to...like the World Series trophy at US Comiscular.
If they work really, really hard though, maybe someday the Cubs can elevate themselves to mediocrity, in spite of the enormous climb from where they are.
Fairy tales are so much fun to tell...even if they'll never come true. But instead of this one ending like most fairy tales, where they, "live happily ever after", the Cubbies fairy tale always ends with the same, "wait 'till next year". Kinda like the sign in bars, "Free Beer Tomorrow".
Pray not for lighter burdens, but for stronger backs.
Posts: 2965 | Location: il | Registered: November 15, 2006
As a Cub fan, I'm concerned about The Cards, Brewers, Mets, Dodgers, etc. etc. I'd think the sox fans would be more concerned about staying ahead of say, the Royals for instance.
It isn't Cub Fan that is concerned about the sox and their paltry few fans, it's the sox fan that can't let go of the cubs.
It is fitting that a sox fan would compare their team with the cubs, when you are trying to catch up that's what you do. Kinda like Chrysler comapring themselves to Mercedes. No, more like Yugo comparing themselves to Dodge.
Posts: 2341 | Location: Chicago Il USA | Registered: February 13, 2004
Speaking for my generation, I started watching baseball in the late sixties. I came home from school and watched the Cubs in the afternoon. They had a likeable group of players that were on the team for a long time, prior to free agency. Every kid knew the Cubs batting order by heart in 1969. The White Sox were on UHF and not as often which did not come in real well on my dads black and white Zenith. So, when I was a kid, those Cubs got me interested in baseball. Now my kids are playing the game and I have followed the team ever since. There has never been any animosity towards the Sox. The Cubs just got my attention first and I have stayed loyal to them. It just seems that you are trying to create a war that really isn't there for many Cub fans.
Nobody on the Sox side is saying anything derogatory about the individual cub fan.
The team, ballpark and neighborhood are different stories.
Nor are we trying to psycoanalyze any cub fans.
Again, we are not concerned about why or how you became a cub fan.
Just annoyed at your consistent diatribe about what we should be interested in, concerned about or why we don't like the cubs...we just don't.
My digs are based in fact and there is no disputing that we are the better team historically.
Wrigley is considered a great tourist attraction and there are more cub fans than Sox fans (about 55% to 45%). These things don't matter to us.
In my experience, by percentage, there are an equal amount of cub or Sox haters. This is great, not bad! It allows Chicagoan's to have a unique personality and a higher interest in the sport year round.
There are absolute truth's as the Sox fans have repeatedly pointed out:
First, we beat the cubs everyway from sunday.
Second, We last won it all in 2005 and your team last won it all in 1908.
No matter the stiff upper lip or brazen banter, that, to me is the reason we mock your team while you seem to mock us.
But it's not about us.........It's about the team.
Posts: 3326 | Location: River Forest | Registered: January 12, 2004
I mock both teams. That is pointed out as I started this thread.
But Soxnole, you gotta admit you don't talk about "boystown drooling" as a compliment to Cubs fans, so drop the point about not being concerned about the fans!
It is better with this banter, and for those of you who can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!
It's all in fun!
BTW, I went to the cell block this year and there were actually a few attractive women there.
Posts: 2341 | Location: Chicago Il USA | Registered: February 13, 2004
Whoever said that we want you to be interested or care about or even like the Cubs? I couldn't care less. We don't mock Sox fans. We are just perplexed as to why you are more concerned with our team than your team. As a matter of fact, if you did not bring it up, I would not even notice Sox fans. And finally, if you think that you have the better team throughout history, whatever. There are several teams that can get in line with you. I don't think that there is a Cub fan alive that is bragging about our "glory years". We are very aware of the flaws in our team. We do not need a Sox fan to point them out. It reminds of the neighbor that is quick to point out the shortcomings in your kid as if their kid did not have any.
Pretty neat stuff on them, and I do love the color red!
