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hsbbweb
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Received an interesting email today. Here is the content:

quote:
Baseball Factory, the leader in player development and college placement, and Team One, the number one company for showcases, would like to announce their recently formed partnership. This relationship will drastically
impact the competitive and ever-growing college recruiting industry.

Baseball Factory and Team One will work together to enhance opportunities for aspiring college athletes by providing the guidance, tools and exposure they need to become actively recruited athletes.

This partnership will also maximize benefits for college coaches and professional scouts.

I have attached a press release containing more details. Please contact me if you have any questions or would like to seek further information.

Baseball Factory and Team One are anxious to inform the baseball community of this development.



Bob,
"Former" Head Cook and Bottle Washer
 
Posts: 1507 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: December 22, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I will give it to the guys at BF...they are good businessmen.

Not really sure this is a good move for T1, though.
 
Posts: 3326 | Location: VB, VA | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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As often, in the past 3 years, that Baseball Factory has been "blasted" on this site by unhappy parents...I'm shocked!

One thing for sure, Jeff Spellman doesn't read the hsbaseballweb!
 
Posts: 7539 | Location: Frankfort, IL. 60423 | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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just about ever high school showcase has been blasted on here at one time usually from parents of players who looked BAD at their showcase.

No one ever blasts a parent for exaggerating greatly about their kids abilities and looking completely overmatched at a high school showcase.
 
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andy,

how did your "showcase" work out? laugh
 
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fine, redbird,
Roll Eyes



how is little league treating you, do the parents call you up and yell at you for not playing their kid enough. have you been inducted in the little league hall of fame yet???

so what do you do for work, can I buy stock in it, ya have a web site. Has Mike Wallace investigated you yet?
 
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You guys are k-i-l-l-i-n-g me!
 
Posts: 1180 | Location: Georgia | Registered: January 06, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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One thing is always certian... Change...
Happens every month here in Silicon Valley...
Yesterday's stepchild turns around to become something positive...

A positive move by BF to increase credibility....
 
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What kind of money does BF cost, and what do you get for it. We've played them several times in tournaments and their teams were not particularly strong, just wondering who they market to.


Frank Coit
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Posts: 370 | Location: San Diego, Ca. | Registered: December 31, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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They are definitely businessmen. Filling a market niche.
Player Skills range from below average to outright studs in talent level. They pull players nationally who have never played together so working out a lineup and all that "melding"
an established team gets to do with thier elite travel team
just doesn't happen.

If you are 1 of the top 50/100 players in a major city, you'll already be invited to play with your local traveling team in national tournaments, so you probably won't need them unless you have no baseball connections in your area.

However, If your a good ball player and haven't figure out how to get on a elite tourney team to test your skills on a national tourney stage, we gave them a shot. If you think you can play at the next level, they're a quick way to test your theory. They take your $$, put you on stage and will give you a shot.

My son played in a couple of events in AZ the past year. Nice hotels, travel in charter buses, 3 meals a day, 24 hour supervision. Solid Coaching and Instruction which included Active AAA Yankee and Angel AAA ball players, Several Professional Minor League Coaches, etc. They are definity connected and can hire coaching talent.

In my sons case, he went and tried out and was picked for their JO team at UCLA Jackie Robinson Stadium with about 100 kids, some JV players, some outright studs.. Next, He ended up hitting .470 in the Jr. Olympics, he didn't care about their 2-4 tourney record, his skills got tested and he performed, Confidence gets boosted and it's off to the next season/challenge. Earning the starting SS role for your Varsity team as he has also done and is hitting .390 and .961 fld pct so far this season.. Smile I gotta get my props in for him.. I'm proud of him.

Alot players don't have the 4/5++++ skills, aren't well connected to get on elite teams to play in national tourneys to help facilitate recruiting by D1 colleges, etc. BF is one way to get things started. Not the only way, but one way. I'll speak for alot of parents who will confirm that elite ball clubs are definitely a very closed and private fraternity to get into. Even if you are good, an establish team can have it's 1-9 starting lineup and 4-5 bench players who have been together for 4 or 5 years. For example, Babe Ruth in our area was "The" elite team every kid wanted to play for. 100 kids try out for 3 or 4 roster spots every summer. If you don't excite a clubs coaches/managers quickly, your not getting in and you have no option to play.

I started on the web and found them. It's been a positive experience for him. I paid $$ and it worked out for him. They are businessmen so If you do contact them and have issues with thier cost, act like you were in TJ and negotiate with them.

Business logic is as they get larger, their prices will come down. Their professional coaching staff combined with a top organization such as Teamone will be an option for alot of kids. Teamone probably liked the deal because it immediately increased their player base *** fold and possible gave them connections in the Northeast where BBF is out of... And I've heard alot of positive comments on Teamone, so BF saw an good opportunity.

Let's see how the merger works out.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by calikidsdad:
They are definitely businessmen. Filling a market niche.
Player Skills range from below average to outright studs in talent level. They pull players nationally who have never played together so working out a lineup and all that "working things out during the summer season" an established team gets to do with thier elite travel team just doesn't happen.

If you are 1 of the top 50/100 players in a major city, you'll already be invited to play with your local traveling team in national tournaments, so you probably won't need them unless you have no baseball connections in your area.

However, If your a good ball player and haven't figure out how to get on a elite tourney team to test your skills on a national tourney stage, we gave them a shot. If you think you can play at the next level, they're a quick way to test your theory. They take your $$, put you on stage and will give you a shot.

My son played in a couple of events in AZ the past year. Nice hotels, travel in charter buses, 3 meals a day, 24 hour supervision. Solid Coaching and Instruction which included Active AAA Yankee and Angel AAA ball players, Several Professional Minor League Coaches, etc. They are definity connected and can hire coaching talent.

In my sons case, he went and tried out and was picked for their JO team at UCLA Jackie Robinson Stadium with about 100 kids, some JV players, some outright studs.. Next, He ended up hitting .470 in the Jr. Olympics, he didn't care about their 2-4 tourney record, his skills got tested and he performed, Confidence gets boosted and it's off to the next season/challenge. Earning the starting SS role for your Varsity team as he has also done and is hitting .390 and .961 fld pct so far this season.. Smile I gotta get my props in for him.. I'm proud of him.

Alot players don't have the 4/5++++ skills, aren't well connected to get on elite teams to play in national tourneys to help facilitate recruiting by D1/D3/JUCO. BF is one way to get things started. Not the only way, but one way. I'll speak for alot of parents who will confirm that elite ball clubs are definitely a very closed and private fraternity to get into. Even if you are good, an establish team can have it's 1-9 starting lineup and 4-5 bench players who have been together for 4 or 5 years. For example, Babe Ruth in our area was "The" elite team every kid wanted to play for. 100 kids try out for 3 or 4 roster spots every summer. If you don't excite a clubs coaches/managers quickly, your not getting in and you have no option to play.

I started on the web and found them. It's been a positive experience for him. I paid $$ and it worked out for him. They are businessmen so If you do contact them and have issues with thier cost, act like you were in TJ and negotiate with them.

Business logic is as they get larger, their prices will come down. Their professional coaching staff combined with a top organization such as Teamone will be an option for alot of kids. Teamone probably liked the deal because it immediately increased their player base *** fold and possible gave them connections in the Northeast where BBF is out of... And I've heard alot of positive comments on Teamone, so BF saw an good opportunity.

Let's see how the merger works out.
 
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"just about ever high school showcase has been blasted on here at one time usually from parents of players who looked BAD at their showcase"

I never sent my son to a BF event.. way to much hard work on my part to waste it on them.. Andy, there have always been two major complaints on BF.. Cost vs. what they get.. and who they name as All Americans.. When I see a kid that I have known and seen since Tball, and was not a HS starter on JV or Varsity make the BF All American List I knew it was not the type of organization I wanted my son involved in.

Team One is the best there is and no my son never attended one of their events, although he was invited twice and I am sure that they have done their homework before joining forces with BF.. There is no way that Jeff (oh and he does read this site btw, would ever jeopardize their reputation without many meetings and plans for the future.. I wish them luck on their new endevour


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"Baseball, it is said, is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole."

"JustMom"

 
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Justmom,

I would echo your post as my own situation and it mirrors my thoughts exactly. agree


Great minds think alike! Just kidding. Big Grin


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
Posts: 5101 | Location: South Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I've never been a BBF basher, as I'm familiar with several players who were pretty satisfied with them, but -
guess nobody else wants to say it, so I'll put it delicately -
the new business relationship seems like walking a tightrope, for either BBF or T1 to fight the "perception" that parents will have, that either "partipating or not" with BBF could have an effect on how T1 views their player. Also that T1 evals of BBF clients could affect BBF's bottom line. (if) poor, the T1 evals of BBF clients could hurt BBF/T1's bottom line, chasing clients - and (if) generous, the evals could keep BBF clients happier and thus would help BBF/T1's bottom line, but then could also hurt T1's overall credibility which has been their strength?

keeping that "perception" in check sounds like a nightmare?? 08


ps-if the press release is dated 4/1, then never mind Wink
 
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The lawyer in me has to ask T-1: "Who in the world did the due diligence on this one?"

Reminds me of when First Union bought The Money Store, then later found out they bought a dog, although anyone dealing with The Money Store previously knew they were a lender of last resort.


Go Hokies! Go Rams! Go Captains!
 
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hokieone,

I totally agree on the DD. Also, PERFECT analogy with FU and TMS. Big Grin
 
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Sometimes deals are born out of desperation. It happens. It will be interesting to see.


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
Posts: 5101 | Location: South Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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It's a race to the BANK...I think they will both run the parents off...we make the decision..no parents, NO PLAYERS!

What a shame...


"If you can imagine it, you can create it. If you can dream it, you can become it".

"Baseball is Life"



 
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