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There are just too many Graemlins too choose from that represent my feelings on this.

Hooboy......I know at least one HSBBW poster is celebrating!

I don't know about that - but how's the traffic in your neighborhood KD? Saw you on Channel 8 last week causing trouble for those poor, overworked transportation bureaucrats.

What a rabble-rouser!

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Originally posted by oldbat-never:
There are just too many Graemlins too choose from that represent my feelings on this.

I am truly disappointed with your response, OBN. SURELY, you can do better!

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Originally posted by Natural:
I don't know about that - but how's the traffic in your neighborhood KD? Saw you on Channel 8 last week causing trouble for those poor, overworked transportation bureaucrats.

What a rabble-rouser!

Hey, I wasn't causing trouble, this young, blonde haired good looking lady knocked on my door and asked me if I wanted to be on TV.....of course I said yes...

I think she's wanting to be PC....I would bet her real feelings would be along the lines of...."Don't let the door hit you on the way out...."

Never met the guy myself.......

But did talk to a current Div. 1 player this past weekend who was a former player.....

I asked about his coach at FM Marcus.

He said specifically..."I loved the guy"......

He went on to add he appreciated much that he did for him and really respected his efforts.

Anyhow, two sides to every story I guess.

Yup, 2 sides to every story.

OK....now that he is gone, who will be the next coach at Marcus??

I will give my 2 cents worth cause I know the man and I will call him my friend. Gary Poynter (my stepson) is targeted to be a high pick (Round 5-10) Projection this week in the draft. He will give Coach Chumbley all the credit in the world for developing his work ethic for his senior year and helping him through his college bumps in the road. Everytime Gary had a problem Coach was there for him. Everytime Michelle or I had a question during Gary's college career he would answer us no matter where he was. The man had his friends and his enemies, but he has two friends at Plano East that will never forget him.

Coach if your reading this thread Thank You for all your help. God has a new plan for you, Travel safe and we will see you sometime in the future.

Gary will have a professional gameball waiting for you when you two crosspaths in the near future.

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Originally posted by Eastside Panther:
I will give my 2 cents worth cause I know the man and I will call him my friend. Gary Poynter (my stepson) is targeted to be a high pick (Round 5-10) Projection this week in the draft. He will give Coach Chumbley all the credit in the world for developing his work ethic for his senior year and helping him through his college bumps in the road. Everytime Gary had a problem Coach was there for him. Everytime Michelle or I had a question during Gary's college career he would answer us no matter where he was. The man had his friends and his enemies, but he has two friends at Plano East that will never forget him.

Coach if your reading this thread Thank You for all your help. God has a new plan for you, Travel safe and we will see you sometime in the future.

Gary will have a professional gameball waiting for you when you two crosspaths in the near future.

Thanks for that message.

Times have changed for sure. Used to, coaches were the ones making decisions. I think the times have shown that the parents and players have more control. Which is better depends on who you ask.

More importantly, best of luck to Gary in the upcoming draft.

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OK....now that he is gone, who will be the next coach at Marcus??

Who really wants the job? Lets see they got rid of Harp because he could not win enough. He missed the playoffs three years in a row, now I was not a Harp fan but he did win there for a few years.

They got rid of Chumbley cause he was too hard on the kids and the parents had him ousted. Made the playoffs two of four years and lost one year in a play-in game.

Sounds like the Desoto football coaching scandal from this winter all over again. But whoever takes the job has to deal with all the whiners in the stands cause nothing has changed at all.

We have friends at Marcus and a couple that are still in the Baseball program and we know the whole story from the player exit interviews to the questionaire form that each boy filled out. How about the anti coach C parent interviews; why wasn't any of the pro coach C supporters interviewed?

It all starts when lil william doesn't get playing time and its the coachs fault. It is never the players fault for earning playing time.

Don't try to BS the other people, we know the facts and we continue to hear the stories. Matter of fact the parents were crying at game 3 this year at the Lake Cities tourney when East meet Marcus.

But its over and the Marcus whiners got what they wanted. Lets see where the program goes in the next 4 years. Cause its greatest success has been the past four years with Coach C at the helm.

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Originally posted by Eastside Panther:
Lets see where the program goes in the next 4 years. Cause its greatest success has been the past four years with Coach C at the helm.

Again, I know nothing about the coach...

But I know the few times I saw FM Marcus play a few years ago I saw a team with purpose.

You talk about hustle...those boys were getting after it.

Again, no clue what happens behind the scenes.

But between the lines, that was a team with discipline, organization, and purpose.

This coach has been embattled since year one. I knew of him from the San Antonio area and was surprised he was named as Marcus Skipper. I did not beleive it was a good fit and although he had some success at MHS it was predicted by many he would not last. I was not a fan and did not always care for his game demeanor. At one point this season he refused an interview after a district loss but was giddy after Marcus avenged the loss the second half of district. It took a kid with thick skin and real desire to compete or be willing to change, as was the case with the player mentioned previous to this writing, to have success within his program.

He was not one to lose gracefully and his victory celebrations were even harder to stomach. A few say good luck to him but most will say good riddance. I just say...Good ......bye coach.

Maybe you Eastside Panthers should hire him. You guys have no idea what this guy was about - so my advice is to stay out of it. When a whole team petitions against you something is wrong. This guy was a true nut case - just a bad apple. My only fault with Marcus is for hiring this guy in the first place. I hope once in for all this guy is out of baseball for good!

Wow, from reading these posts it seems that the community had a big say in what happened here.

What has this profession come to when a digruntled group can fire a coach. If he has done nothing unethical and he follows the rules then he should remain the coach. I know the community had a say in the hiring process and you got what you wanted.

Now you want to change your mind, this man has a family and this is what he does to make a living and it seems as though a select few have changed his life in a negative way.

I dont know all the facts so far be it for me to comment on the situation but this is just waht I see from the outside looking in.

someone spill the beans on the rest of the story

I had the pleasure of doing some mental skills coaching over at Marcus for Coach Chumbley and his players in '06 and '07 and I can say that this is a very fine man and passionate baseball teacher. Like anyone, he has strengths and weaknesses. It's clear that some think that one "weakness" (he wouldn't call it that, of course) is his inflexibility. He's a "my way or the highway" guy, and it doesn't change on game day. Some would call him "old school, like Bobby Knight." When he came to Marcus, my understanding is that the program needed discipline and his style was mostly welcomed. The honeymoon ended quick enough, and lately his style has obviously worn out its welcome. This reminds me more of a professional situation where he's not right or wrong, just a good fit one time and not another. Clearly there are athletes who benefited a ton from his style, and others who would've had more success under a different style.

Personally, I think Coach Chumbley would get better outcomes if he'd help his players relax during games, but I don't argue with his belief that if they can learn to relax playing for him (practice, game, or anytime), they'll be able to relax in the toughest championship moment.

An interesting question is this: will Marcus be able to find a coach who can teach toughness to a group of guys, but still keep everyone happy enough to keep his job? My answer: it is possible, but winning will be required.

tough district to win in and if winning is a pre requisite then the job may not be that good.

Tough situation!!!!

Not sure many would want to enter this place as it will be tough to do it your way and still appease others to keep your job.

What has the high school coaching profession come to.

Even when you win you may not be safe.

I am willing to bet if the parents are really honest, if asked this question I would not be surprised with their answer.


Would you rather win a state championship and lil Johnny sit the bench, or not make the play-offs at all but lil Johnny plays every inning.


Why dont we have a little survey and see what people think. Everyone chime in on this one and be real honest.