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My son is a 2013 pitcher playing for a team in the 16U TSL league. Looking toward next year. Does anyone have experience with both leagues who could offer opinions on a preferred path for development and college exposure? Or other options?
 
Posts: 8 | Location: North Texas | Registered: December 22, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I can only speak about MSL. It has been a good experience at this age (16U) for our son, if not for any other reason, it has given him the confidence of what it will be like next year when more scouts are looking at him. I think it has allowed him to get the jitters out and the anxieties out of the way (us too, as parents! HaHa!). There is more exposure to bigger university and pro scouts at the 17U age, obviously. But being invited to participate at 16U was overall a fantastic expereince for him (you have to be invited, by the way). Also, the DBAT group has done a great job, and I appreciated the lengths they have gone to to make up the rain-outs!!!
 
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A couple questions. What was the average number of scouts in attendance for the games? How many innings do pitchers get?
 
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What is the TSL League?
 
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MSL 2009 Attendance

Week 1
Colleges

Wake Forest University
Dartmouth
UT Arlington
Dallas Baptist
Tyler Junior College (3)
Richland College
Austin College
Abilene Christian University
North Central Texas College
Louisiana Tech University
Texas State University

Week 1
Pro Teams

Texas Rangers
NY Yankees
NY Mets
Chicago White Sox
Colorado Rockies
Boston Red Sox.

Week 2
Colleges

Murray State OK

U of Nebraska

Howard College

Mississippi State 

Dallas Baptist -2

Northwestern ST - LA

UT-San Antonio

Cisco JC

Panola JC

UT-Arlington -2

Texas Tech

North Central

McLennan College

Richland College

Ouachita Baptist -2

Austin College

UC Arkansas

Western Texas College

La Tech U

Texarkana College -2

Hill College

Baylor University

St. Edwards University

Week #2
Pro Teams

TB Rays - 2

SF Giants
AZ Diamondbacks

ATL Braves

MIL Brewers - 2

LA Angels

TX Rangers

WSH Nationals

NY Yankees - 2

CHI White Sox

CLV Indians


Week #3
Colleges

STEPHEN F. AUSTIN UNIVERSITY
NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COLLEGE
CISCO JUNIOR COLLEGE
HENDRIX COLLEGE (ARKANSAS)
WOFFORD UNIVERSITY (SOUTH CAROLINA) -2
HOWARD COLLEGE
DALLAS BAPTIST UNIVERSITY-2
SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
MIDLAND JUNIOR COLLEGE
MURRAY STATE COLLEGE (OK)
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON
GRAYSON COLLEGE
RICHLAND COLLEGE
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS-ARLINGTON -2
AUSTIN COLLEGE
SAN JACINTO COLLEGE (HOUSTON)
UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL ARKANSAS
PARIS COLLEGE
NAVARRO COLLEGE

Week #3
Pro Teams

MILWAUKEE BREWERS
NEW YORK METS
COLORADO ROCKIES
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS
PITTSBURGH PIRATES
NEW YORK YANKEES
CHICAGO WHITE SOX
ATLANTA BRAVES
TAMPA BAY RAYS


Week #4
Pro Teams


Giants
Mets
Dodgers
Braves
White Sox
Yankees
MLB Bureau

Colleges & Universities

Western Oklahoma
University of Ozarks
DBU
Richland
Cisco JC
Northwest Oklahoma
Northwood
UTA
Grayson College
Austin College


ANY MORE QUESTIONS?


Cade Griffis
 
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KCR - Assume that was for 18U league? Also did not get an answer on pitcher innings.

Next year my son would still be 16U. Trying to weigh the benefits of more innings for development vs. best competition vs. exposure at an age where I assume scouts have more of a casual interest.
 
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Originally posted by NTxDad61:
KCR - Assume that was for 18U league? Also did not get an answer on pitcher innings.

Next year my son would still be 16U. Trying to weigh the benefits of more innings for development vs. best competition vs. exposure at an age where I assume scouts have more of a casual interest.


Ntxdad,

First off, don't expect much of a following for 16U kids. The little that does happen, the 16U MSL will most likely lend the best opportunity.

Second, if your looking for competition, anything Cade puts together will be highly competitive at the area level as his teams are very competitive on the national level.

To quench all your concerns, focus on HS ball while refining fundamentals. Find a competitive and organized summer organization. This will allow for reps. and competition. By the time the fall comes around innings shouldn't be an issue if your son is truely at that elite level.

Bottom line, the MSL is the best thing going in the area for the fall.

I'd rather see a more "team" oriented arena for baseball in the fall, but the trend is moving away from this kind of stuff.
 
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My son was a 15 year old in the MSL this year. I thought it was a very good experience for him. The 15's and 16's might not get as much "scouting" as the older players but it is still exposure for them. My son had 5 innings on the mound, not as much as mom would've liked but there were a lot of pitchers on the team so they tried to be as fair as possible I think. Overall a very positive experience, aside from the weather. We will definitely return next year. I see it as an investment for the years to come. The experience gained for the 15's and 16's this year and next should come across when they take the field when they're 17's and 18's. We feel very lucky to have been apart of the MSL this fall. A big thanks to Cade, Kyle, Shayne, Sam, Jack and everyone else that made it possible. We are looking forward to next year.
 
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