Coaches are usually on the hot seat if actual performance does not match expectations or if the team is not competitive. A few programs listed below could put their coach on the hot seat. Here are my top 5:

Coppell

Cowboys under performed in 2008 with early playoff exit. 2009 expectations are highest since Jason Stokes era. Talented senior group led by ss/p (OU recruit/Area Code), outfielder (ASU/AFLAC), and catcher (UT/AFLAC & Area Code) plus outstanding support cast. Cowboys are loaded. Goal: State championship or bust.

Heritage

Outstanding pitching staff returns in 2009. Lots of D1 talent in program. Fans very disappointed with 2008 performance. Heritage 2008 & 2009 players currently enjoying huge select seasons with top tier programs. Goal: Turn program around in 2009 and go deep into playoffs

Jesuit

2008 team led by departed crafty pitcher and senior class. Talented catcher returns but little else remains. JV players must fill holes. Some projected 2009 starters are not even playing summer ball. Jesuit moved into arguably most competitive 5A district in Texas with Allen, Plan West, and other powers. Goal: Avoid being knocked out early in most games and win 2-3 district games.

Marcus

Flower Mound HS’s unexpected and exciting 2008 playoff run sets the bar for cross-town rival Marcus. Grace period for new coach will end by March. Goal: Contend for district crown now.

Heath

Enjoyed outstanding inaugural varsity season in 2007. Huge letdown in 2008 – mugged by district heavyweights. Roster includes numerous talented players. Goal: Win district.

There is a program here in San Antonio that is chock full of talent...one on the state All Star team...many D2 signees....most of whom would have had a legitimate shot at D1 if they had played on a higher-profile select team....just didn't get the exposure. For the past couple of years, many have predicted that the team would go DEEP into the playoffs. Last year, the team didn't even make the playoffs....this year, out in the first round as the 4-seed.

Some blame the coach, who doesn't like to play small ball and is said to focus a lot more on velocity than finesse. Many others, however, put the blame mostly on the players. Big egos, me-first versus team-first mentality.

That can be a problem when you have a team full of talented players. If they do not sacrifice individual goals/desires for the needs of the team, the team can definitely suffer as a result.

Linedrive5

Interesting post. In Refrence to Heritage could you fill us in on "Lots of D1 talent"? Are they getting some transfers like last summer?

I do not think that the Marcus coach is on the hot seat if they do not "contend" for a district title. With Flower Mound, Carroll and Coppell in that district making the playoffs is great...get in and then see how far you can go. Fact is, that the 3rd place team in that district would win some other districts. I am not sure winning the district is as important as you might think.

Just my opinion!

i completely agree that ***the coach*** of heritage HS is on the hot seat

after having 4 D1 players and 2 draft picks (thorpe and palmeiro) along with 5 JuCo players and not making it past the 1st round of the playoffs he is feeling the heat

I believe we need to start a topic Parents on the Hot Seat where the high school coaches underachieve because of their actions.

If a team underachieves, you better look at the entire team - players as well as coaches.

PLAYers, as in the ones actually performing on the field. Everyone needs to be accountable, but no one needs to be held as a scapegoat for a team's failings.

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Originally posted by SWAC:
I believe we need to start a topic Parents on the Hot Seat where the high school coaches underachieve because of their actions.

Witnessed this very action this past weekend as a coach was tossed because of his parent's abrasive behavior towards the umps.

DFW Coach G: I see you have no problem calling out a coach. Do you care to come out from behind your pseudonym?

Collikar: Karen Collins

Yep, pretty chicken coming on here and spreading manure about men's jobs and careers, careers they chose so they could try to educate kids! Fact of the matter is, you have ABSOLUTELY no idea if any of this garbage is true! You are doing nothing but acting like a little kid spreading rumors about people to try and stir something up.
How about you crawl back under your rock and SHUT UP!

The most important questions are:

Does the coach know the game?

Does the coach know how to lead players?

Is the coach fair?

Does the coach have good parent relationships but the does not let parents set the roster?

Can the coach teach baseball?

Does the coach look out for the best interest of his players?

If your coach has these skills, you better not let him get away. The program may go through ups and downs. In the long run, this coach will have a winning program. I would rather my son be a part a team that has these traits on a good team, than win a state championship for a knucklehead coach. I know most will not agree, that is just how my son and I feel. (I did ask him)

Collikar:

Hum...it's quiet .... perhaps 2011 son did not make 2008 Varsity Roster parents

This topic has blamed the coaches, players, and parents. What about the Siblings, Aunts, Uncles, Second Cousins, and the family dog.

In regards to Heritage 2008 I will stick to the fact we were not able to run all the black cats off the field! THAT's BASEBALL!

You know I think it is just wrong for people to come on the board and start these kind of rumors. You people who started this need to get a grip. I have said this before on this forum and will say it again. These men have families who depend on their salaries. How would you like to see your name on a message board where people were commenting whether you should retain your job or not? You need to put things back into perspective and realize this is just a game. JMO

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Originally posted by Ringer1:
You know I think it is just wrong for people to come on the board and start these kind of rumors. You people who started this need to get a grip. I have said this before on this forum and will say it again. These men have families who depend on their salaries. How would you like to see your name on a message board where people were commenting whether you should retain your job or not? You need to put things back into perspective and realize this is just a game. JMO

Ringer1 excellent point. People that call out others really don't care about anyone other than their own personal gain. The comments by DFWCoachG is so unprofessional and that person should be ashame of their actions. I happen to personally know the coach he mentioned and he is an excellent coach and a very good person. I really don't know the person that started this post but how would you feel if a post was started about your career and the effect it could potentially have on your family? I think really bad.

I hope that Panther Dad or Keller Dad reads this post and closes it down.

Ok here is the new Thread

"High School Baseball Web Posters on the Hot Seat"

Here is the first post:

Delete DFWCoachG for not being a professional.

I think many of you need to lighten up. It's an opinion -- nothing more -- and these men's jobs have nothing to do with this message board. Isn't "hot seat" an expression meaning that there are high expectations? Who said anything about being fired? Let's remember that this is Texas. Baseball coaches don't generally get fired for their team's performance unless there are other factors at work....I know there are occasional exceptions.

You guys should read the football message boards -- oh my.

Good post, KDM.

Reading this thread the thought that came to my mind was that as a coach being on the hotseat or thinking you are on the hotseat isn't always such a bad thing because it might be the motivation that drives a coach to success. Sometimes a hotseat may be self imposed (as personal motivation) or it might be imposed by other means (i.e. outside influences). This drive, created by the hotseat, might just be one of the strongest catalysts that the coach needs to lead the team to successful season.

And for some coaches not thinking/being on the hotseat might just be the complicacy that ends a season in failure and underproduction of his players.

Calling out coaches isn't proper just as it is not our policy to call out players. If you have a problem/issue with your coach then deal with it at the source not on the boards.

As much as several of us have wanted to call out coaches in the past we have learned to bite our tongues , learned to be P.C . and learned how to use the PM's to our benefit.

Obviously, DFWcoachG only has 13 posts and doesn't understand the rules of the board when it comes to calling out players or coaches. Maybe someone should EDUCATE him.

I removed his reference to a coach, by name. There have been numerous topics here regarding underachieving teams. I think being on the hotseat to a greater extent might actually be a good thing for some programs. Most coaches set goals based on a realistic view of their team's potential -- and they can tell you after the season whether their team underachieved.

And to a large degree, expectations are set by people that have no view into the actual programs. So, the newspaper people and the message board people pick teams that "should" win district and make deep playoff runs.

It seems to me the one thing everyone overlooks about high school coaches is they get the players they get. Everyone on this board knows chemistry plays a huge part in a successful baseball team, summer or school. The H.S. coach has no choice in the chemistry department. Lets face it, there are adults that are good people and adults that are jerks. It is the same with kids, just because a team has kids with D1 talent does not automatically make it a championship team. If the D1 talented kids are kreepy, the team may not be that good. You can't blame the coach for that.

Robert S. Coming out of the woodworks!! How is the summer going? I hear the boys are now in Basic? Hope all is well. Good to see you have kept in touch with us websters. Nice point.

Chris

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
I think many of you need to lighten up. It's an opinion -- nothing more -- and these men's jobs have nothing to do with this message board. Isn't "hot seat" an expression meaning that there are high expectations? Who said anything about being fired? Let's remember that this is Texas. Baseball coaches don't generally get fired for their team's performance unless there are other factors at work....I know there are occasional exceptions.

You guys should read the football message boards -- oh my.

Good post, KDM.

As I agree...

Although I find it ironic that coaches are open game yet players aren't.

Just sayin' regards,