I haven't figured out the purpose of fall instruction. Can someone explain?

Mine hasn't played, so he can use the work. But pitchers are tired and position players exhausted.
Most of the players (newly drafted) have been playing since February.

It's a chance for players to be seen by the higher up's.
You know the people that actually make the decision on weather a player moves on to the next level are not??
Front office people Draft Players they have never seen with there own eye's. They take the word of there scout's.
This is a chance for players to be seen by those front office people.
JMO
EH

All the players have been playing since Feb.
Instructional league is just that, Instruction and practice.

There is also a lot of scouting done by the other teams.

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Originally posted by theEH:
It's a chance for players to be seen by the higher up's.
You know the people that actually make the decision on weather a player moves on to the next level are not??
Front office people Draft Players they have never seen with there own eye's. They take the word of there scout's.
This is a chance for players to be seen by those front office people.
JMO
EH

Ok that makes sense. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
I haven't figured out the purpose of fall instruction. Can someone explain?

Mine hasn't played, so he can use the work. But pitchers are tired and position players exhausted.
Most of the players (newly drafted) have been playing since February.

A friend's son was sent to the AFL in an attempt to learn how to catch. After a couple of weeks he decided it was safer being the goalie on a grenade throwing team. So did the parent club. So did the pitchers he caught.

Another's friends son was sent to learn a better change. He was told not to worry about stats, just keep throwing it.

Players who have been sitting out with injuries like yours, are another type.

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A friend's son was sent to the AFL in an attempt to learn how to catch. After a couple of weeks he decided it was safer being the goalie on a grenade throwing team. So did the parent club. So did the pitchers he caught.

Another's friends son was sent to learn a better change. He was told not to worry about stats, just keep throwing it.

Players who have been sitting out with injuries like yours, are another type.

TG,

Are you sure you mean the Arizona Fall League “AFL”? They play 6 games a week starting in early Oct until the middle of November. Typically it is not a place for a lot of instruction, or learning a new position, but rather a place where clubs send their best minor league prospects. A large number are going to play in the Big Leagues, the league is full of top propsects. Seems they would send a player they want to learn a new position to a different setting. While there might be some instruction, the league is not an instructional type thing. The players are from different clubs as are the coaches.

Everyone plays different places depending on where the team has their main training facility, as far as I know it is usually in Florida or Arizona for most teams, not sure of other locations. I know some get confused with Fall Instux in Arizona with the AZL or AFL.

Maybe that is where the confusion lies for TG?

There are a number of different reasons for a player being assigned to Fall Instrux.
The most important and common one is to give careful and almost one on one coaching to the players involved. Most clubs have their entire minor league coaching staff present. With around 30 players assigned, each player is getting very careful instruction and oversight on changes or improvements that can be made for them to improve parts of the game necessary to move to the next level.
BTW, I think TG, and some others, have been welcome additions to the HSBBW. They know baseball and want to find out ways for their son to matriculate through high school and beyond.

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Originally posted by PGStaff:

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A friend's son was sent to the AFL in an attempt to learn how to catch. After a couple of weeks he decided it was safer being the goalie on a grenade throwing team. So did the parent club. So did the pitchers he caught.

Another's friends son was sent to learn a better change. He was told not to worry about stats, just keep throwing it.

Players who have been sitting out with injuries like yours, are another type.

TG,

Are you sure you mean the Arizona Fall League “AFL”? They play 6 games a week starting in early Oct until the middle of November. Typically it is not a place for a lot of instruction, or learning a new position, but rather a place where clubs send their best minor league prospects. A large number are going to play in the Big Leagues, the league is full of top propsects. Seems they would send a player they want to learn a new position to a different setting. While there might be some instruction, the league is not an instructional type thing. The players are from different clubs as are the coaches.

It was the AFL. They were both prospects. One had just hit .300 in a half year of AAA but was behind a player who is now an NL all-star at third. The theory was learning to catch got him out from behind the all-star or made him a more valuable utility player. He's not quick enough to be an every day middle infielder in the majors. he spent the first couple of weeks in the bullpen warming up pitchers while getting instruction during the day. It didn't take long to determine he wasn't a catcher. He's now in another organization. The other was a pitcher moving up to AA but needed to learn a change.

Now that players have reported to fall instructs Do they find that the bonus babies are treated any different than the lower round players ?

njbb,

Cards have 61 in attendence, as far as I know they all get room and board.

Of course that yes!
Big Bonuses players have their attendance at instructional league for grandted at least their first year. The low drafted players have to gain their entrance ticket by them self and some times takes more than a season.

In Arizona there is the Fall Instructional league which starts now until mid late Oct.
Used for lower league Prospect instruction.
And then the Arizona Fall League for top Prospects, Starting in Oct. thru Nov.

Didn't see Bonus amounts listed as a stat on the rosters for Instructional League. From what I have heard about Instructional League, if the "bonus babies" carried any weight at all they would opt out of this ASAP.

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Originally posted by deldad:
From what I have heard about Instructional League, if the "bonus babies" carried any weight at all they would opt out of this ASAP.

I agree.

I still haven't figured out Instructional League, not that I have a lot of information other than breakfast, field workouts, stretching, games, late lunch. Same thing all over again the next day.
The one thing I do understand is that it's important if there is to be player movement in spring and elimination of players. The bonus guys aren't going anywhere too quickly, so why does it benefit them more?

My understanding is that the brass agreed to draft these guys high, but probably hasn't seen them perform much, if at all. Fall Instructional is their chance to check their investments.

Further, the entire minor league coaching staff is there, so the additional help could be intensive. Pitchers can work on new pitches, a player may learn a new position (they like his bat, but they're short at a spot), a guy is given the chance to work on a hole in his game when the rest of the package looks pretty good.

The scrutiny, at the same time, could also be intensive ---- did we get what we "paid for"?

To me instructional league is just that....instruction. Special help in certain area, learn a new position, pitch and practice and more practice... during the season there isnt as much time to work on things
I know the brass does travel during the season to see players and the real scutiny comes for the non prospects in the spring.

Instructional league is mainly comprised of the organizations top players that are early in their professional careers (1st/2nd yr usually not always)....It is indeed a chance for the rovers, a few coaches and farm directors to see newly obtained players (via the draft or trades) and for players who need to hone a skill or who are changing positions.....the entire minor league coaching staffs are usually not there....it is the rovers and a few of the minor league staff to run the games......obviously the farm director and/or field coordinator will be there and possibly anyone else from the org that wants to attend or pop in (ie. GM or Scouting Dir)....Like spring training but for around 40 players.......workout in the morning then game in the afternoon....sunday is usually off......

Scouts from other organizations also come to watch the games..thats how my son met bbscout.