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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
I understood that a college bound player cannot have an agent?


You are correct, but a college bound student can be advised by an advisor/agent and cannot sign any agreement with the advisor because he is really an agent (you get that Eek) and he will lose all eligibility.
 
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Shep,

I really wish you wouldn't use me as some kind of endorsement.

The truth is...

I am aware of your group and of you. I am not aware of the stellar track record with many big names.

Anyone other than the family doing the negotiating can lead to eligibilty problems.

Staying with the truth... I have nothing negative to say about this firm. Just haven't had any first hand experience with them. They could very well be one of the best for all I know.

Shep is a good scout!
 
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Baseball America just published an interesting, and thought provoking, article on Matt Harrington.
The article fits in this thread(the importance of good advice) but also in many others. The final comments by his Independent League coach on the fact he will get 4-6 weeks to prove himself next Spring as opposed to 4-5 years had he signed several years ago pretty much tells it straight. The lack of a signing bonus, what he has walked away from, and how things changed over the years are all pretty sobering. While there is, I am sure, a lot more to this story, it is pretty poignant using this as a snapshot in time.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/news/262616.html


'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
 
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Shep,

No big deal, I just wanted to make sure there is no confusion.

I'm not into "ringing endorsements" and I doubt I have the impact to make one.

Where have I seen you and Mr Zucker, this year, other than the Aflac Classic in San Diego? Were you guys in Jupiter last week?

I'm glad you understand our position of not wanting to align with any one group or agent.

Jim McMahon is a great person to have endorsing your group. How does one go about "just giving Jim McMahon a call"? Smile

Anyway, best of luck to you and Zucker Sports Management. I hope things work out well for you. I really mean that!
 
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We believe in giving the "Player with a Dream" the opportunity to solidify a financially secure future and comfortable retirement.



Shep, I am in for all of that...but I have no talent. Eek Or if I had it, I forgot where I put it. pull_hair
Does that mean I don't need to call? Confused
Seriously, though Shep, in reading the site, it seems the representation is more focused on those who are in professional baseball rather than those trying to get there, or those in the first 1-2 rounds rather than later.
If a player is in that tweener range, 7th-15th round of the draft, where do those players find representation/advise? How do would you suggest they go about finding that assistance?


'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
 
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Jim McMahon???? I maybe could see him as a spokesman for headbands, neckbands, armbands or Ray Bans but not as an authority on who I should select as an agent or an advisor.
 
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c'mon Shep, pony up Mac's # for a few more guysWink

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by fungo: but not as an authority on who I should select as an agent or an advisor.
I'd think a hi profile guy who had been handled right & happy with his agent relationship from the get-go would be a great reference Smile

imo

ps - there's only room for ONE Raybans spokesman Wink


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Going into my son's SR. HS season, we were in contact with an "advisor" that I had full trust in and led my son to believe that what the 'advisor" said was the way that it was. Son was selected in 20th round. Long story short.....

son signed out of HS, kept "advisor"/agent(now) for first year of minor league ball and then(cuz, Dad was not involved in Minor league game environment?) made up his own mind to select an AGENT that HE(son) felt would represent his(son's) best interests.

Part of this decision process included "selecting" from the top agencies representing MLB players.... I have the folder that the "B" agent representative prepared for my son... they are playing the odds", hoping to get as many "possibles" signed each year as they can.

infielddad,

The agent/scouts are all over the minor league spring training sites hoping to score... "nothing ventured nothing gained" is a a fair phrase to attach to agents at this level. They will gladly provide gloves,shoes etc. to glom onto a player long enough to see if he is the one to get to the next level. If a player is a "player", they will have plenty of folks wishing to get them signed on the dotted line.

Just my 2 cents!


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Fruit flies like a banana.
 
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Who would that be --- Bee?
 
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Ya'll keep writin', I'm watchin'
 
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FO,
UR 2 funeeeee!

OPP,
Next time I see ya, can I get Zach's number? Wink
 
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Shep

I think you, as usual, are trying too hard to impress everyone--I,for one, am not impressed by McMahon---didn't he play football ?

That being the case how can he help a baseball player? Educate me, please


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personal snipes against reputable pro athletes such as Jim McMahon


Shep, I don't think what I said would qualify as a snipe at Jim McMahon. I simply expressed MY opinion what I though my Mr. McMahon’s would be more suited to endorse. I do know there are people that take snipes at Mr. McMahon. Seems as if ESPN’s Paul Katcher hammered him pretty hard when he wrote about the famous “Super Bowl shuffle”:

Notes: McMahon should've thrown in a line about being along for the ride. A pedestrian pro quarterback, McMahon made his only Pro Bowl team in 1985 with 15 TDs, 11 INTs and a QB rating of 82.6. McMahon wasn't even the best passer on the team. That goes to Payton, who was 3-for-5 with a touchdown, 19.2 yards per attempt and a 143.8 rating. His sunglasses looked good, though!

In my opinion pro athletes and entertainers are what they are which that alone gives them no special knowledge about the “products” they are endorsing. However this is commercialized American and I understand that’s is how it’s done. Using them as spokesmen to hawk products doesn’t impress me, actually it tends to offend me (but that’s just me). Pat Boone (in a pre-recorded message) called me yesterday and was explaining to me that as a senior citizen I needed to vote a particular way. Why should Pat Boone be an expert on how I should vote? I hung up on him. ----- Personally I think the endorsement by Roger Staubach would have carried more clout! Big Grin
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wishing Shepster the best in his new direction (dos) and opportunities dazzler



and on a sad note -
I'm devastated to learn that OUR "former ... highly regarded & beloved old timer"
hung up on 50's R&B singing/recording icon and direct decendant of frontiersman/statesman, Daniel Boone
(even if pre-recorded!)(*corrected) noidea


how de we petition to get his "tag line" changed??



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Bee, You're gettin' your frontiersmen, bears and music "all shook up". It was Davy Crockett (in the song) that killed him a bear when he was only three.

You may be thinking of the words that Daniel Boone carved into a tree in present Washington County, Tennessee which reads "D. Boon Cilled a Bar on tree in the year 1760". There is also one in the Filson Historical Society in Louisville, Kentucky, which reads "D. Boon Kilt a Bar, 1803." However, because Boone always spelled his name with the final "e", these particular inscriptions may be forgeries, part of a long tradition of phony Boone relics. As to the relationship between Daniel and Pat --- You may be right. Big Grin Big Grin

My tag should be changed to: Fungo kilt a lie on this website in 2006! Wink
 
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Fungo,
rotlaugh You are the man!

BTW, I hung up on John Elway last night! pull_hair I'll be glad when today is over! duel Especially since I voted absentee a couple of days ago!!


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bears and music "all shook up".
yup, noted the dicrepancy about the missing "e" & corrected my post Big Grin

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My tag should be changed to: Fungo kilt a lie on this website in 2006!


Blew a mouthful of coffee through my nose and spilt the rest on the floor.

Rolling in it ROFLMAO.............
 
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FO!!
Same here!!
bgrroll bgrroll bgrroll
 
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