I'm not sure where you're getting your info. When our son played for SK, most of his team came straight from college.

As for the Giants player development...
they've taken GREAT care of our son over the past 5 years and our hope is that he will someday be able to provide a good return for all of the time, money, and support they've invested in him.

2007 Roster

and Prepster & my sons played in that league last year.

It's great that the Giants have taken care of your son; they obviously think highly of him.

But there are a lot of pre-2007 draftees on their roster from last season.

I was shocked to see that Andy D'alessio (senior sign Clemson) spent most of his summer in Giants rookie camp. This makes no sense to me at all. This player is probably the best 1B player I have ever seen in college ball in a top conference, a power hitter as well (but not selective on his pitches). To me this just indicates no player movement during the season. I am curious to see where he begins his season.

Although not always having the best farm system, the Cards ML director beleives you develop by playing tougher compensation, you do not lay stagnant for years in one place, or you are released if you do not develop, according to your age development. This happens often when teams just trade, don't develop. Thank goodness, many teams are developing new approaches to their farm systems.

My sons team one was of the worst in the NYP league, mainly because the door revolves quickly. If you do well, you are out to Quad City in a flash. I did notice on one other team, much older players that were beyond their first year out of college and MLB players getting in practice time before they head back to the show.

Everyone uses their systems differently. I am not one to know who is doing a better job than others, but sometimes the obvious is hard to argue.

IMHO, the best organizations take an individual approach to player development. They get to know their players, work with them closely, and place them in situations that challenge them enough to build their skill level without destroying their confidence. Some kids, like Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum, progress through the system quickly. Others may need a little more time, depending on a WIDE variety of factors.

MLB is a very complicated, competitive, and fluid business. Many considerations go into minor league placement decisions ...most of which are never revealed to the general public. What may seem obvious is often not the case.

Txmom,
Your son has made it to where most of ours will never see. He made his MLB debut in 2005 and on the 40 man roster which is every players goal, right?

Please don't take it personally all teams do things their own way for development which doesn't make it right or wrong. And all teams do take very good care of their players, in one way or another.

Just recently read in baseball america that the Giants have begun rebuiding their farm system and that they have not had a homegrown star in their system since 1985 (out of hs) but have most likely some of the best young crop of pitchers in MLB. They also did acguire some amazing talent in the recent draft out of HS, now they just need to develop them. This isn't coming from me, but Baseball America. I just think that W77 made some good points about some teams who need to develop better farms. The better you develop your farm, teh better pool of players you have to call up when there is no big trade available, or very few FA available at the MLB level. which has been the case in recent years

Hey, it was known for years the cards did nothing to develop homegrown kids or move their top prospects along. Those changes are occuring now.

One good thing for all of our players, they are entering systems (all) where older successful players are retiring and those taking PED's to remain in teh game longer can no longer do that (hopefully). This forces teams to begin to rely on their own farms, no always someone elses.

Am I understanding this correctly...you are only considered home grown talent if you are drafted and signed out of high school. Those that choose to get an education while persuing baseball are not considered home grown talent even if they end up signing with the Giants or any other MLB team in California?

Good question I may be wrong but home grown always meant to me straight out of HS or one year JUCO developing within that organization until he reaches MLB.

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Originally posted by TxMom:
IMHO, the best organizations take an individual approach to player development. They get to know their players, work with them closely, and place them in situations that challenge them enough to build their skill level without destroying their confidence. Some kids, like Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum, progress through the system quickly. Others may need a little more time, depending on a WIDE variety of factors.

MLB is a very complicated, competitive, and fluid business. Many considerations go into minor league placement decisions ...most of which are never revealed to the general public. What may seem obvious is often not the case.

I agree with TxMom.
I think it takes awhile for players and parents to understand the decisions that are made involving players.
What at first seemed very simple is really very complicated. As son progresses though the system I 'm in awe of the thought, money and time that spent on players and their development.
PS I think the goal is the 25 man roster

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Originally posted by njbb:
PS I think the goal is the 25 man roster

Once you make the 40?

Txmom is such a sweet mom and person, no harm or to hurt feelings intended.

i may be wrong but i think home grown means developing in the teams system. regardless of drafted out of hs or college. like bostons ellsbury or bucholts. that's what we call it up here.

20Dad,
You could be right, it may mean you were drafted by a team and made it to the MLB without being traded, etc, no matter how long it takes or doesn't take.
I don't consider pitchers that come out of college and pitching in a year or two at the major league level home grown. JMO.

Pedroia, Ellsbury, Youkilis, Papelbon and Buckholtz were referred to by Theo Epstein as an example of how the Red Sox have fixed their minor league sustem and are now bringing up home grown talent. These players all played college ball.

I'd be curious. TxMom, when did your son sign? As for the home grown. It means what 20dad said. Its just building your major league team through your minor league system from draft to the big leagues. Instead of building your big league team through free agent signs and trades of one big leaguer for another.

Some players are near big league ready and make it fairly quick. If they were drafted and made it in one year to the big leagues then that player would fit the bill on the statistical data as being "home grown".

as for this statement....Pedroia, Ellsbury, Youkilis, Papelbon and Buckholtz were referred to by Theo Epstein as an example of how the Red Sox have fixed their minor league sustem and are now bringing up home grown talent. These players all played college ball.....

Each one of those guys could play when they were drafted. Buckholtz is the only one that needed seasoning and coaching. Sure they are home grown but they were just stuck in a minor league lineup and they played and were left alone.

Thank you for the clarification.

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Each one of those guys could play when they were drafted. Buckholtz is the only one that needed seasoning and coaching. Sure they are home grown but they were just stuck in a minor league lineup and they played and were left alone.

But homegrown (from draft to MLB) by definition which is my point.