So I just heard that the high A team will have what is called a piggyback rotation. Pitcher pitches every 4 days with limited pitch counts and innings, start then relieve every other outing. They did this last year in Quad City, I was wondering if other teams do this. Anyone know?
Posts: 10788 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Originally posted by Orlando: Eugene did it last year. Pitchers were paired, and alternated starting with relief with, of course, pitch counts.
yes some teams in ss and low A will do that especially with an abundance of pitchers, but not sure if it was done in high A. Also helps in SP development. Instead of 5 you have 8, in a four day rotation.
I think it might be a good thing, because the starter doesn't have to go the distance (more than 5) each outing, especially in the first half of season. And if it's based on pitch count that's even better.
Posts: 10788 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Ours found out yesterday that he is heading back to Mo-beel and as much as I would have loved to have him closer to home in Tucson, nevertheless he is fine with the move. He and wife will leave Sunday morning and should be there late Monday or mid-day Tuesday.
The front office decisions of these MLB clubs are so complicated and at times not very understandable ... son gets to finish his spring training by joining the major league guys for 2 exhibition games in Phoenix today and tomorrow, and he should get into one of them. (We may make a turn-around trip tomorrow if he doesn't get into today's game ...) So, he isn't ready for AAA but he has been with the major league sqaud at least 5 or 6 times this spring, and competed in two games (has an ERA of 0.00), and gets to drive to Mo-beel after the final two games. How does one make sense of these things?
Orlando ...
Please let me know if I should order season tickets for Elsinore ...
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Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
Understand completely what you are saying ... but the front office still drives me crazy ... !
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Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
Another season. As someone who really has always loved this game (and as a Dad ) - I am thankful for each and every additional pitch and play.
I kid you not.
Thanks again FO!
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970
Posts: 5809 | Location: Huntersville,NC | Registered: December 27, 2002
Understand completely what you are saying ... but the front office still drives me crazy ... !
I was out in ST a few weeks ago and had the pleasure of going out to dinner with Son and some of his buddies who were at Minor lg camp. They were pretty much saying that the Minor lg rosters were set except for some tweeking. The guys working out with the AAA squads understand that with the roster moves that the Big Club has to make, next week they could be working out with the AA squad. Then its a trickle down effect for the rest of the squads but I would have to say that the minor lg player director knows were everybody is heading. Its also hard as Sons AAA squad carries and pretty sure all AAA squads do is what they call roster fillers. I was surprised last year when son was in AAA and his team was playing a squad where the average age was over 30.
I also want to say that first experience with the "piggyback" system was when son was playing in the MWL as a few of the clubs did it. I haven't seen it done anywhere else son has played. I can say that while son was in High A his club had strict pitch counts and early in the season was tough to make it to the 5th inning.
I would also like to add that in the past few days sons club have made some releases of players that were highly drafted. One player was drafted in 2003 early rds and million dollar bonus had a great year in 05 and was told he didn't fit into the clubs future. I also know of players who were at AAA last year and are being headed back to AA this year.
Baseball is a tough business as my Son and I have had this talk numerous times about the ups and the downs. You can't get caught up in what is going on around you with the player movements, you have to go out there and perform.
Posts: 94 | Location: Boston.Ma | Registered: December 30, 2002
Just 'watched' scoreboard as Dbacks finished their ST with another exhibition game at Chase Field. Son was invited to go with the team yesterday and today, and got to finish the game in the 9th inning, giving up 1 hit. His ERA with the major league players is 0.00 after 3.1 innings. And tomorrow, early a.m., they head out the I-10 eastbound for Mobile. Travel mercies on their trek ... and for all our boys as they head out for the season.
Mary Ann * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
It's a fun time to be in A's camp and it's not just because of those aforementioned arms -- there are some guys with some pretty ridiculous power throughout the system as well. Many of them are spending their first time in the Athletics' organization.
Carlos Gonzalez, Cunningham and young first baseman Chris Carter are just three of the hitters who have been regularly flexing their muscles at Papago Park. How can the A's tell they've got more pop than they have had in past years? Simple accounting, really.
"We've used over 500 dozen baseballs for the first time," Lieppman said. "We're usually at about 350 dozen. Something good is happening in our organization.
"With our influx of strong hitters, it's been fun to watch. They're banging balls out of the park and losing a few. Our accounting department may not be thrilled we had to dip into the reserve, but it's worth the investment."
Posts: 3130 | Location: Texas | Registered: December 27, 2002
A lot of player movement in ST is done to accomodate the big leaguers who don't have to fight for a spot, this cuts down on innings and gives position players some rest.
It's also to give some an opportunity to play the game at a different level.
Plain and simple, baseball is business, you have to put all the stuff aside which includes player movement, player drama, organizational decisions and go about your business as told everyday to succeed.
Posts: 10788 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Congrats to all who got their assignments. Mine is staying in extended ST. Hasn't got his walking papers yet. He said they cut around 16 players including a pitcher who was an all-star last season.
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Posts: 1693 | Location: Pueblo,CO,USA | Registered: December 27, 2002
Phillies Camp broke y'day. OfcrKID, LT. KB has been granted permission to play for the Lakewood Blueclaws (low A NJ). Please don't ask any details about how. TPTB are supposed to issue a statement soon.
BUT, he gets to play ball!
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Posts: 483 | Location: California | Registered: December 16, 2005
Mine, alas, didn't get an assignment either. Extended ST for now.
They, too, had a number of surprising cuts, including a pitcher with some exceedingly tasty stuff, but a garbage attitude.
Mine was told, loudly and in front of others, by several of the pitching coaching staff that he had been (explitive deleted). Mine replied with "they were all catchers that had serious bonuses. I'm the NDFA". Coaches confirmed that was exactly how the decision had been made.
There are silver linings, however. Talking WS '06 with Jim Edmonds and catching Mark Pryor, for example!
All part of life's rich tapestry....
"They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." --- Terry Pratchett
FO, he is going to be playing in a nearly new(one year old) ball park that is a beauty in the downtown area. The park is a beauty, the downtown....somewhat of a work in progress. They built the park a bit like AT&T so homeruns, hit a long way, head into the Delta for splash effect. It is a great park, not large, and they get pretty good local support. He is about 70 or so miles from us(and about 30 or so degrees warmer come June). If there is anything we can do to help, don't be bashful.
'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
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