I am currently an '08 LHP from NY. I just received an invite to the UVA camp(s) that rn throughout September. If anyone has any info on these please let me know I am interested in signing up but want to make sure the $ and travel is well worth it. Thanks.

How is your summer season going so far?

Coach-

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JH, believe Midlodad has some experience with the UVA camp...
Shoot him a PM...

JH, sent you a PM.

A recruiting camp that has many of the recruiting coordinators from the differet schools around Virgina working the camp. Does Scott Gines still run this camp, anyone know?

midlo-

right back atcha

I would be interested in learning more about this camp also as my Son has recieved invites as well. I have heard generally good things about the camp but nothing specific. Does anyone have experience with this camp?

With every camp there's a question of do they like the player or are you just one of a mass mailing list.

With UVA. here's a good way to know. is your son's grades good. Above 3.0 and 1100 SAT - and a 4 year language? If so then they might like him. If not probably mailing fodder.

UVAs a tough entrance. Generally athlete's can get by with less than student body (usually) but it can't be riduculous - unless it's Rev generator..football or basketball.

mrmom- I agree with your points but I don't think they look strictly at your grades at a showcase camp. What I am trying to find out is what are the benefits of this camp and is it worth the trip to Virginia?

3.0 and 1100 seem a little low for UVA. I know people that were rejected from many other schools with those boards that don't have the prestige that UVA does, and some of them were going to pursue athletics. Currently, I have like a 3.5 or 3.6 and as a sophomore scored a 1680 on the New PSAT, so whatever that translates to I hope its good.

PS- I'm assuming you mean an 1100 on a 1600 scale

JH Baseball wise the trip to UVA would be worthwhile the coaching staff is excellent and it would give you a chance to meet them if this is a school you are interested in.

If UVA is not on your list of schools I would not attend and would target the schools baseball camps you are interested in.

As for the SAT that was without the writing grade, I don't beleive the NCAA uses it -- of course the schools do.

If the UVA coach truly wanted a 3.0 1100 I think he'd get in. if he wanted a 2.4 1000 maybe not. lots of variables.

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Does Scott Gines still run this camp, anyone know?

Assistant Coach Brian Anderson runs it.

I recieved an invite to their july camp, however i couldnt attend, would it make sense for me to attend the sept. camp, would there even be a chance for a scholarship or to catch there at that point, im an '07

thanks

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would there even be a chance for a scholarship or to catch there at that point, im an '07

Hard to say. UVA is one of the top programs in the country. You have to be VERY good, and VERY smart. I'm no expert, but I think by Sept. they probably have a good idea of who they are going to make offers to already. My son has been to three of their camps and loved them. I've told the story before of the fall camp we were at last year. My son was between his soph and junior year. Over three games he played 4 positions and hit over .500 (6-11) and was absolutely raking. Even his outs were crushed and this was against pitchers UVA was very interested in. After the camp those pitchers were still getting all the props and slaps on the back by the coaching staff. I know my son was young but you'd think since then he would've gotten more than camp brochures from them but no.
Is my son going again this year? Yep, Labor Day weekend. Doesn't want to let his "last chance" at UVA slide by without a fight.

ok new issue to pose to everyone:

I had a long discussion with my father about the invitation. After it was all said and done, he said I needed to make a choice. I had already signed up for the PG NE Underclass Showcase in Cape Cod in mid-August. He said I can't do both the UVA and the PG, I could only do one. (Financially, transportation and school was probably on his mind also)

I thought about it long and hard and still I don't know what I want. I know I like UVA but I just turned 16, I still haven't made that "list" yet. Still, my dad said something that I liked. PG and most showcases are very "by the numbers". It's whatever the radar gun says basically. A showcase like the UVA Camp provides much more of an in-game analysis and coaches having the ability to see what you can do in a game and how you act on the field. Still, in terms of exposure abroad, the PG might be the way to go.

Any suggestions?

You answered your own question. Your 16 and need exposure which one will get you more -- you've already said it.

Look at it like this if you're UVa quality player you won't escape their detection when it's time. But you might miss some other opportunities missing the PG.

I'll throw a wrinkle at you. If it was my son I'd skip underclass events and try to get in one of their Top prospect camps. There's one in UNC in August and probably one up in the NE as well.

Good luck

A couple things: You will get to be seen in game situations at the PG Underclass Showcase as well, but it may only be by PG staff and evaluators, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for an '08. I don't think the Underclass events are too well-attended by recruiters and scouts. However, performing well in the Underclass greatly increases your chances of being invited to that PG Top Prospect Showcase that mrmom spoke of, or some other of their more high profile events. If given the choice I'd go with PG.

The big factor in my mind is whether YOU need to meet THEM. A showcase event gets your basic capabilities (and possibly also any shortcomings) out there with the scouts and any number of colleges. THEY learn about YOU, but not vice versa.

College may be the one time in your life where you have a big say in who you're playing for. In my mind, the college camps will do more to tell you about the schools, their facilities and their coaches than you could ever learn anywhere else.

But your dad is right about one thing, it's expensive, so it's best to narrow down your focus before you pick just a few college camps to attend.

Folks,

You are responding to two distinct and different items. Simply, the UVA fall camp(s) and the BIV (Best in Virginia Camps) are different entities.

BIV began 21 years ago under Dennis Womack and Scott Gines and is still directed by these individuals today. Both were long time NCAA I head coaches, and both are currently collegiate athletic directors. Both began this enterprise while coaching at UVA (perhaps therein lies the tie in, and some of the confusion in your postings).

BIV completed it's 21st year of operation yesterday. The BIV represents the nations only instructional showcase; only showcase owned and operated by collegiate coaches; and only showcase with heavy participation across all levels--NAIA-to-Division I. BIV continues to operate with a camper-to-coach ratio of less than 5:1. In 2006, 370 campers attended from 23 states with 91 staff members on board over 2 sessions. BIV has sold out for 15 consecutive years, and enrollment is capped. BIV is held at Hampden-Sydney College.

The UVA camp is a separate enterprise and with a different mission and format. Contact the UVA baseball staff for information on this opportunity.

You can access information on BIV at www.vabaseballcamps.com including a brief highlight video of the 2005 sessions.

I don't see any BIV comments above...? But I guess you got them a plug.

Where are Womack and Gines now? Just curious, hadn't heard.