What a great week. Thanks to CVSting and HokieOne for all the tips. Was able to go every day and have never seen a better instructional camp. The exposure the kids get from all the colleges working the camp and on showcase day is an added plus. The advice I can give for those going to week two is GATORADE, and lots of it. Several kids this past week went down with some heat problems, as the heat index was in the 105-110 range.
Posts: 3536 | Location: Lynchburg, VA | Registered: January 15, 2003
Yes it was a great camp (no rain this year). My son was able to meet kids from all over the country, even as far away as Hawaii, made new feinds and met alot of college coaches. Yes, Gatoraide, my son took a large cooler filled with a case of gatorade to keep in his room, he and his roommates(3) went thru that plus more. One of his roomate's parent delivered more each day. In my opinion, the show case games should have been paired down to one full game 7-10 innings all on one field instead of 2 shortend games (one 4 inning, one 3 innings) with 2 going on at same time. I noticed the scouts frantically dividing their time from one field to the other, walking back a forth in that heat. My son fully enjoyed the experience. His squad coaches were great and made it fun along with the hard/hot workouts.
Posts: 61 | Location: mid-atlantic | Registered: May 11, 2005
Like we said, if you can, bring a cooler for the room, my son had a five day cooler. Fill it with gatorade. If you are going to be in area, bring ice/gatorade daily. There is a store at corner of road where you turn off of HWY 15 to get to the school (less that 2 miles from dorm), but players are not allowed to leave school grounds. Bring lawn chair for watching games/work outs. Sit under the trees or umbrella. Tell you son to find shade when he is between work outs or games whenever he can, mine sat out in the hot sun before his last showcase game. My son's dorm had laundry on bottom floor, it would have been nice if he washed out his camp tee shirt once in a while. No need to bring an excess number of tee shirts/jerseys, they have to wear the same camp ones every day. He and his roommates shared pizza every night before lights out, sold at the college store they set up after last work outs. $10.00 each. So each would take a turn. They do train on weight lifting one day and run an obsticle course (named Paris Island, instructed by a navy seal, hardest part). Introduce himself and talk to as many coaches as he can while he is there. Relax, have fun and work hard. Pay attention to what the coaches are saying. It was well organized and set up so the boys know excactly where to go and when. Check in took about 2 minutes, moved his stuff in dorm room, left, I was done and headed back home in 30 minutes. They start there talks and workouts at 3:00 PM first day. They will have all scheduales listed at check in and in the dorms, so don't panic if you missed it at check in or didn't write it down. Its posted in hall of dorm on every floor for the boys to keep track in case they forget. They will give him a key, key laynard, tee shirt, drink bottle and send you on your way to the dorm. Than its baseball, baseball, baseball for 5 days.
Good luck!
Posts: 61 | Location: mid-atlantic | Registered: May 11, 2005
I believe parents are welcomed at any lecture or workout. Intro lecture was at the football staduim stands. Most everything was outside and anyone is free to move about/watch/listen.
Posts: 61 | Location: mid-atlantic | Registered: May 11, 2005
Book lodging reservations. I showed up and was surpised to learn that every room in a college town was booked. I had to drive to the next town to get a place to stay.
Posts: 142 | Location: va | Registered: April 20, 2004
Duffman: A roll of quarters for laundry. 3-4 pairs of batting gloves 3-4 hats 4-5 pairs of pants If you are going to be nearby and can make it--a quart of gatorade in the AM and the PM. A comfortable lawn chair (for yourself)
Best thing to bring is a great attitude of hard work. The games allow very limited AB's so my impression is that work ethic, coachability, how they carry themselves (on and off the field), etc are what the coaches look at.
Posts: 3536 | Location: Lynchburg, VA | Registered: January 15, 2003
Every day is a little different. The boys are split up into squads (teams) and they rotate to the different events. Running, batting, infield/outfield drills. They video your batting and pitching and evaluate it and discuss it with you. One day has weightlifting and running the course. They played mini games between squads on the 2nd/3rd day. Latter part of 4th day is BP showcase and fielding in front of scouts. Last day is 2 showcase games with IF/OF/Catcher throwing evaluation before the 1st game, one game 75 minutes and one game 60 minutes time limit. You may get 1 at bat during showcase game. Typical day, breakfast, baseball, lunch, baseball, dinner, baseball, free time 9-11, lights out.
Posts: 61 | Location: mid-atlantic | Registered: May 11, 2005
JT, Dropped my son off Saturday for the 2nd session. Appreciate all the tips you offered. He has a large cooler in room stuffed with gatorade and water. He had made friends in the parking lot before getting into the dorm Talked to him last night, they are really enjoying it but they are tired at the end of the day. He also has the laundry in his dorm. Called to ask whether to use hot or cold water to make shirt shrink. Never mind that it smells , let's get it to fit better. Thanks again to all the above posters as your input made a big difference I'm sure.
Posts: 117 | Location: VA | Registered: May 15, 2003
Took son to session 2. My first experience -- It is very efficiently run. Not sure if/when any coaches other than instructors come to watch.
Most importantly boys seem to be having fun. very surprised how many out of state kids were there. My son's team has more kids from texas than Virginia???
They said 22 states represented at this session.
My son said he feared today, I think it's called Paris Island -- 6 kids suffered heat exhaustion last session most during this part. Not sure what it is they exactly do?
Anyone know?
Posts: 769 | Location: Va. | Registered: December 26, 2002
They RUN, do conditioning drills, agility stuff. Similar to what colleges do in their off-season training. VERY intense. Fortunately, my son had been through that sort of training so he handled it OK. Good luck to your son.
Posts: 3536 | Location: Lynchburg, VA | Registered: January 15, 2003
Worst is over, but today and tommorow the heat will be almost unbearable. Heat index will be well above 100 maybe up to 115-120. Remind your kids to seek shade whenever they can, take the time to take a quick shower between showcase games on Wed if they can. Sit in the AC dorm rooms, stay cool, etc. Carry a wet towel. Bring cold water or gatorade, the fountains they have sat out pumps out warm water. Luckily the showcase games are short.
Posts: 61 | Location: mid-atlantic | Registered: May 11, 2005
My son is at BIV now. He is one of the boys carted off to the hospital for dehydration after yesterday's "Paris Island". It was 112 degrees on the field. He drank 11 gatorades, and it wasn't enough. We got a call from the camp trainer that they were unable to get enough fluids in him and he needed to go to the hospital. The initial report was that he was unable to speak, but was relatively alert. It was only on a later phone call that we found out that he couldn't speak due to the severe cramping and pain, rather than losing motor function. It was quite a scary evening as we waited to hear from the hospital. Thank god that we found out that he was going to be ok, and after he received 3 bags of IV fluids, he was released from the hospital. Unfortunately, he's unable to participate today, but should be ok for the showcase games tomorrow. The EMT's told my son that there are 4-5 kids each year that have to go to the hospital for dehydration.
My son runs track in the off-season, and is in very good shape, although he has very little body fat (4%) and tends to dehydrate easily. It seems to me that the camp should not have this drill when it's 112 degrees, especially when there's a history of sending kids to the hospital. The kids are there to try to impress the college coaches, and aren't about to let up even if they aren't feeling well.
We chose this camp because of all the great things said about it on this website. And, while I agree that is a great camp, I felt that I should write about my son's experience so that others may not have to go through it. If I had to do it all over again, I would have still let him attend the camp, but I also would have suggested to him that, if it's really hot, it's ok to go at 75-80% for this drill (which is 75 minutes of hard running), rather than end up in the hospital with heat stroke. And, I would have him hydrate like crazy the night before (Monday). Starting Tuesday was too late.
Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to let people know in advance that their sons need to be prepared for a difficult day.
Posts: 1 | Location: Fairfax, VA | Registered: July 30, 2004
My son is there now too. I stayed for Saturday and Sunday and I agree with with heat warnings like they had the Paris island thing seems of questionable benefit. I can say I personally heard the hydration speech given to the boys repeatedly to include pre-hydrating at night.
I'm no doctor but I have heard and seen that gatorade, while good in many ways is no substitute for water and should not be taken in volume (11 bottles) rather water as a supplement.
Glad your son is OK, heat prostration is no laughing matter.
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Posts: 769 | Location: Va. | Registered: December 26, 2002
BIV has never before had exhaustion cases--simply and humbly fact.
BIV is also the nation's only instructional showcase--in this respect your format is dramatically difficult and equally powerful.
Each day, among many other components, features a 75 team concepts segment (note: all rotations are 75 minutes followed by 30 minutes of rest and water). Those segments are as follows: Sunday: Video analysis of all primary and secondary pitchers and video analysis of all hitters in camp. Monday: Acceleration and baserunning. Campers through the years call this Paris Island. It's a powerful segment typically featuring 9 instructors guiding each player through speed development. Tuesday: Strength training teaching segment (in A/C), featuring 5 instructors (this is a teaching segment, not a workout segment).
The heat index for both BIV sessions in 2005 has been higher than normal. BIV is celebrating its 20th year, and this specific format has been a part of the itinerary for over a decade.
In some of this year's cases of dehydration (a handful each session): several campers also, by self-admission, shared their usage of various supplements to assist their strength development. Sometimes these things (as well as the use of gatorade in exchange for water) can accelerate heat difficulties
Posts: 4 | Location: Mid-Atlantic | Registered: July 26, 2005