For the most part pathetic. Baseball players are posers - not fighters. Look at all the posing going on in the video.
Without a doubt, the king of the baseball fight is Nolan Ryan. When Robin Ventura charged the mound on that fateful day way back when, a large man schooled a small boy on the art of fighting. After seeing that, I doubt anybody in their right mind would want to mix it up with the Von Ryan Express
Gotta disagree, CD. I'll take Kyle Farnsworth in a baseball fight over anyone else, including Ryan.
I'm not out of order! You're out of order! The whole freakin' system is out of order! You want the truth? You want the truth?! You can't HANDLE the truth!
Posts: 1359 | Location: Cambridge, MA | Registered: January 03, 2003
Milton Bradley is proof of baseball's generally "redemptive" attitude.
And I strongly support second chances... (thinking Josh Hamilton here)
re: Business
Consider this: As a basic business decision, bringing a player to Wrigley Field, who might fire one into the face of a four-year-old, may seem an unreasonable exposure to a lengthy law suit.
"15 players and the two managers were ejected, but were unejected when the Cubs and Reds big-clubs objected, as they did not want pitchers playing in the outfield, etc. The ejected players returned, and finished the game."
Gee.. don't you think they could have just cancelled the game?
1) Julio Castillo needs to go to jail. Immediately. And when he gets there - he needs a good beating or two.
2) When Julio gets out of jail - he needs another good beating. Just as a painful reminder that crime doesnt pay.
3) #30 - Robert Hernandez - is a gutless thug thats punches people from behind. He needs to get squared up - and laid out.
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970
Posts: 5809 | Location: Huntersville,NC | Registered: December 27, 2002
Originally posted by TPM: This is jut part of the ugly side of baseball that most don't see except in these situations.
I don't like using the language "just part of...baseball"
While it's hard for non-baseball people to understand, I do agree with the game policing itself on the field, i.e. throwing inside, plunking a guy every once in a while and sliding hard into 2nd.
However, what that pitcher did was not indicative of how baseball polices itself. It appears more to be a thug who was raised as a thug and doesn't know how to behave in a civilized society.
Look at the faces of the players and coaches behind him when he throws that ball. You can see several mouth the words "Oh my God!" They were just as shocked as we are.
Posts: 1251 | Location: Illinois | Registered: January 30, 2006
I disagree with your third point about Robert Hernandez. If Hernandez is the guy that jumps on Castillo after he throws the ball (I'm not positive that's him, but I think it is), then I wouldn't consider him a gutless thug. Castillo just threw a ball, and he really fired that thing probably over 90 miles an hour, at that kid's dugout from not far away. Castillo literally could have killed someone. Hernandez didn't sucker punch him, he tackled him. Had he sucker punched him, then I'd agree with you. However, in that situation, Castillo needed to be taken down, and Hernandez was the closest to him. I think it's safe to say that had we seen somebody do that, we wouldn't have run in front to him before fighting him. Castillo looked possessed after he threw that ball.
Posts: 54 | Location: California | Registered: January 21, 2008
Robert Hernandez is NOT the player that jumped on Castillo.
Robert Hernandez is a thug teammate of Castillo - and his number is #30.
Robert Hernandez is a gutless thug that punched people in the back of the head while they had their back turned.
Robert needs to go to jail with Castillo - and like I said - he needs someone to square him up - face to face - and then knock him out. Cold.
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970
Posts: 5809 | Location: Huntersville,NC | Registered: December 27, 2002
I doubt Castillo (who went for the head) did that on his own. Sounds to me that this game was out of control way before the brawl, that's the umpires fault. The brawl didn't begin until one manager pushed another.
Posts: 10723 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Originally posted by TPM: I doubt Castillo (who went for the head) did that on his own. Sounds to me that this game was out of control way before the brawl, that's the umpires fault. The brawl didn't begin until one manager pushed another.
The excuses begin.
Posts: 169 | Location: Kansas City | Registered: December 15, 2005
Originally posted by TPM: I doubt Castillo (who went for the head) did that on his own. Sounds to me that this game was out of control way before the brawl, that's the umpires fault. The brawl didn't begin until one manager pushed another.
Noone told him to throw it in the dugout at a player about 15 feet away. If you want to fight someone, fight them, dont throw a baseball at them.
Posts: 147 | Location: south broward | Registered: April 23, 2004
