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Let the pouting begin. Now everyone will see the Nick Swisher we saw in Chicago...happy, great teammate, media darling...when he's in the lineup. When he's not, he turns into a sour, pouty, bit<h, that his teammates can't stand to be around. There's a reason Kenny Williams and Ozzie didn't want him back, and it wasn't his career .240 BA.
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| Posts: 2602 | Location: il | Registered: November 15, 2006 |    |
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Have you ever seen teammates give a kid the silent treatment after he hits his first homerun? It's all a joke and big fun and the kid eventually gets mobbed. The White Sox did that to Swisher last year...except they weren't kidding and he didn't get mobbed later. That says a lot when a whole team doesn't want you around.
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quote: Originally posted by Midlo Dad: Would you say that Posada was also "benched"?
Nope, I think Molina is Burnett's guy, much like Eddie Perez always caught Maddox in Atlanta. Who was the defensive replacement after they pinch ran for Hairston? I missed the rest of the game. GED10DaD
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quote: Originally posted by GunEmDown10: Nope, I think Molina is Burnett's guy, much like Eddie Perez always caught Maddox in Atlanta.
When Molina caught for Burnett in the ALCS and Posada pinch hit and remained in to catch Burnett, I had thought there was too much drama made on the defensive switch. Fox was showing the dugout and all the interplay between Burnett and Posada, and I thought come on. But watching Molina throw that seed last night to pick Werth off 1st base seemed like a huge momentum shift in favor of the Yankees to me. I may be partial to catchers and the impact they can have on a game, but you can't dispute how much Burnett must have appreciated getting that leadoff guy off first.
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quote: Originally posted by stayinside11: CPLZ - That surprises me a bit because I thought one thing Nick brought to a team was a great clubhouse guy. I'd even go so far to say he's one of the reasons the Yanks seemed like more of a "team" this year.
That's what the media portrays on the outside. Swisher is always available to talk to the media, he's very much a moth. Believe me, if the Yanks are more cohesive this year, it's not because of Swisher, it's in spite of him. He did get a fair amount of playing time though, so that may have diminished his poutiness.
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quote: Originally posted by Backstop-17: When Molina caught for Burnett in the ALCS and Posada pinch hit and remained in to catch Burnett, I had thought there was too much drama made on the defensive switch. Fox was showing the dugout and all the interplay between Burnett and Posada, and I thought come on.
But watching Molina throw that seed last night to pick Werth off 1st base seemed like a huge momentum shift in favor of the Yankees to me. I may be partial to catchers and the impact they can have on a game, but you can't dispute how much Burnett must have appreciated getting that leadoff guy off first.
No way does Posada make that play. Molina runs circles around Posada as a catcher. Molina blocks everything while Posada can't even handle pitches in the strike zone. Molina calls a good game and keeps his pitchers under control while Posada has to make coonstant trips to the mound and has issues with other pitchers not wanting to pitch to him. Randy Johnson and Joba Chamberlain to name a couple. Posada is nothing more than a DH and the only reason Molina don't play more is because he can't hit a bulls azz with a shovel. Otherwise, he'd be in there everyday. It's why oe Torre played Girardi over Posada when they were teammates. Of course difference was Girardi was a little better with the bat and had goo speed for a catcher.
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quote: Originally posted by zombywoof: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Backstop-17: When Molina caught for Burnett in the ALCS and Posada pinch hit and remained in to catch Burnett, I had thought there was too much drama made on the defensive switch. Fox was showing the dugout and all the interplay between Burnett and Posada, and I thought come on.
But watching Molina throw that seed last night to pick Werth off 1st base seemed like a huge momentum shift in favor of the Yankees to me. I may be partial to catchers and the impact they can have on a game, but you can't dispute how much Burnett must have appreciated getting that leadoff guy off first.
No way does Posada make that play. Molina runs circles around Posada as a catcher. Molina blocks everything while Posada can't even handle pitches in the strike zone. Molina calls a good game and keeps his pitchers under control while Posada has to make constant trips to the mound and has issues with other pitchers not wanting to pitch to him. Randy Johnson and Joba Chamberlain to name a couple. And of course, Burnett. It's nore than coincidence that pitchers can't work with Posada. Posada is nothing more than a DH and the only reason Molina don't play more is because he can't hit a bulls azz with a shovel. Otherwise, he'd be in there everyday. It's why oe Torre played Girardi over Posada when they were teammates. Of course difference was Girardi was a little better with the bat and had goo speed for a catcher.
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quote: Originally posted by theEH: Who know's but Swisher.
Every White Sox fan on the planet that watched the games, that's who knows. The disdain the other players had for Swisher was very much on display. As usually happens, the full story didn't come out until after he was gone, but it did come out, and it wasn't a stretch. Too often we get caught up in believing the snippets the media wants to show us, and think that we can make a complete picture from the fragments. Swisher is a great example that it's simply not true.
Expect that this adventure is going to be difficult. It is going to be hard. And expect to win.
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