Irvin is a jerk and the whole world knows about it. They are afraid to fire him. He did his deeds while he was playing football and the NFL didn't know how to handle it.
Harold, on the other hand, is an employee who "allegedly" did some things with other employees at the workplace. We should wait how this thing plays itself out. I'm a big fan of his and I'm disapponted that this has happened to him.
The NFL, in my opinion, buries stuff about players because there are so many problems with so many of them. You can violate their "league" drug rules at least 3 times and then no one is certain as to what the penalty might be.
ESPN, on the other hand, is a huge division of a major public corporation and they don't need the negative publicity.
Is anybody else happy with who is on Baseball Tonight these days? I never really liked Kruk, I really dont like Hershiser and Tino. They both arent fluid like HR was. I guess i'll have to get used to it..
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Posts: 320 | Location: Marietta | Registered: April 30, 2005
I thought Harold was pretty good and likeable........Kruk isn't bad, Orel Hershiser is okay, but he is excellent as an analyst during live games.....Tino needs some work.
We don't really know what happened with Harold; we can all only speculate based on what we have read and heard. My guess is that he must have exhibited a pattern of behavior that can be considered as sexual harrassment. I highly doubt ESPN would fire him over an allegation.
Michael Irvin is another story.
Posts: 1062 | Location: Michigan | Registered: December 27, 2002
Have to agree with Grateful.. HR is saying in public that it was just one instance.....and only a hug.
Well....that's difficult to believe......he has his rights to.....and ESPN must have some really good Human Resource specialists and lawyers on staff....they had to have investigated the allegation(s).......think there is more to it then what HR is telling the media.
As a former LR Mgr....my job was on the line if I didn't investigate every complaint...objectively...and termination was always considered the "capital offense".....the evidence had to be there...verified....before anyone lost their job....despite postings on another thread asserting otherwise...no one is fired (in major corporations certainly)...on just say so.....and employees in good standing, or with longevity....were usually offered leaves, suspensions, and assistance.....because.....litigation works both ways....
It's all very unfortunate....HR was one of my favorite broadcasters.....
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Posts: 1571 | Location: NorthCarolina | Registered: June 16, 2004
In the late 80's and early 90's, as ESPN exploded, apparently, at least according to one book, harassment was a HUGE problem and the management at that time, did not handle it well. Now, it could well be a knee-jerk over reaction, or it could be something HR had coming. I sure hope it was all a misunderstanding, b/c Tino and Destrades are BRUTAL!!!!
JT
Posts: 3516 | Location: Lynchburg, VA | Registered: January 15, 2003
There is another card yet to be played, I think---no black baseball guys now on the set---I don't like it and it should not matter in the least but I think it will be rear its head shortly
This entire thing is a shame because he was the best baseball guy that they had, in my book anyway
TRhit
Posts: 19134 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002
I don't care if they're black, white, green, or orange--just as long as they know the game and have a great presentation/personality. Personally, I'd like to see them feature Jeff Brantley more in HR's slot.
JT
Posts: 3516 | Location: Lynchburg, VA | Registered: January 15, 2003
JT...you may not care...but ESPN, and other major corporations do....I understand what you are saying, and I couldn't agree with you more...but TR has a point....as you know...it's called affirmative action......and the television end of the entertainment industry does seem to work at it.....
....and because of affirmative action, et al....in addition to private litigation...one has to think that HR was given every opportunity to a fair hearing/investigation prior to termination.
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Posts: 1571 | Location: NorthCarolina | Registered: June 16, 2004
agreed.Im sick of drag racing,poker/darts,paintball,etc.Who fricken cares about that?And cut the NFL live crud for 2 minutes please!
And if Harold did harrass someone,he deserved this.That being said we live in a much different era.Now,if you hit your child,its abuse.If you hug a kid,you are looked at as a pedophile.I wonder what really happened.
Posts: 1140 | Location: oklahoma | Registered: December 15, 2005
Harold Reynolds is the man when it comes to baseball tonight. Realeasing him until this alligation is over is the right thing to do. I do agree that Hersh and Tino are not the right answer for all of us baseball fanatics. Tino is not in sync with what he should be saying. Hersh is good at talking about pitching and that is about it. Be patient everyone, I have this real good feeling that HR will be back.
Posts: 26 | Location: Ga USA | Registered: December 07, 2003
Originally posted by futurecatcher27: agreed.Im sick of drag racing,poker/darts,paintball,etc.Who fricken cares about that?
I'm with you on this one. More baseball during the season. I'd like to see more variety of teams shown. I may be alone on this but I want to see the Royals, Devil Rays and Pirates etc play once in awhile.
After all some of those players may belong to HSBBW families.
Posts: 459 | Location: mountain west | Registered: October 04, 2003