Didn't take long, but I guess A-Rod woke up and remembered he was A-Rod. After making a strong start in the play-offs, he's now 0-8 with 6K's in the World Series. I normally try and stay very positive on here, especially since most of the talk is regarding HS and college kids trying to get better, but I have to admit an intense dislike for this guy. IMO, he embodies what's wrong with pro baseball. From the QUARTER BILLION 10 year contract he signed with the Rangers, the b**ch slap (true character revealed) to Bronson Arroyo in the play-offs a few years ago, to the fake "I got it" call as a baserunner on an infield pop-up, all the way to the Madonna/stripper disgrace as a married man. Smarter people than me may disagree, but I think the contracts he through his parasite agent have been awarded over the years have hurt the sport I love. Some may disagree, but you won't change my mind. Go Phillies!!
Posts: 161 | Location: Alabama | Registered: November 24, 2008
Can't disagree with Wayne here. A-roid has done a lot to hurt the integrity of the game. It is a shame that a Derek Jeter has to play side-by-side with a poster child for doing it the wrong way.
As my son and I watch the Playoffs and World Series, I find that A-roid is the one guy he roots against. He's a cheat. Worse yet, he's a gifted and talented cheat ... revealing an even deeper character flaw.
As Southpaw_son points out; when Sosa got off the juice to try to come back, he got smaller. Giambi got smaller. Other guys get smaller. A-roid is as big as ever. Do you really believe he is clean today?
Posts: 185 | Location: Northern Virginia | Registered: April 27, 2008
He is one strange dude. He is not alone in the batting department, though. The Phillies pitching has been awesome. Cliff Lee made them all look like little leaguers. Pedro too.
Posts: 5269 | Location: Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002
My son just turned 24 and body still maturing, he is far more larger and bigger than he has ever been, does that we are to assume he takes something to achieve those results?
This series has been all about the pitching, HR's come when pitchers make mistakes, happens to everyone. Can't blame him for not producing.
Forget the potholes in the road and celebrate the journey instead...anonymous
Posts: 12757 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Before the series began, ozzie called it right about A Rod- swings at too many bad pitches.
Watching him you can't help notice the difference between him and Jeter. Jeter will do anything to help the team win, Arod wants to win to be sure but it's equally important for him to personally do well.
Overall the public perception is accurate about Arod: great talent but not a team player.
Posts: 291 | Location: illinois | Registered: August 24, 2006
Originally posted by Wayne: Didn't take long, but I guess A-Rod woke up and remembered he was A-Rod. After making a strong start in the play-offs, he's now 0-8 with 6K's in the World Series. IMO, he embodies what's wrong with pro baseball. From the QUARTER BILLION 10 year contract he signed with the Rangers, the b**ch slap (true character revealed) to Bronson Arroyo in the play-offs a few years ago, to the fake "I got it" call as a baserunner on an infield pop-up, all the way to the Madonna/stripper disgrace as a married man.
Go Phillies!!
What about Ryan How-roid?
Large as a house that hits long balls?
You do assume he's on the juice too, right?
0-4 and 4 strikeouts against Burnett isn't exactly lighting it up either
If not, then it's about hating Arod and the Yankees which is cool but it is what it is
Posts: 719 | Location: NJ | Registered: October 27, 2007
A-Rod opinions put aside, I am very disappointed with this forum. As a player, what frustrates me more than ANYTHING else is people assuming people are on steroids simply because they are bigger and stronger. Just because some fools decided to take illegal drugs to make themselves better at the game doesn't instantly mean every single person does it. It infuriates me when I hear "yeah well, he's not really that good, he's just juicing."
The accusations here of a player being on steroids...just because...is far beyond what I expected from people who I think of as good baseball minds.
Whether A-Rod is a good man or a bad man, he's a hell of a talent. And I am not personally a A-Rod fan, but the guy had two bad games. TWO. Give him a little break and let him play.
"Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun." ~The Sandlot
Posts: 512 | Location: A field somewhere | Registered: May 28, 2005
Howard is just one of those naturally big dudes--there are a few of those playing pro sports after all. Look how smooth his skin is, you don't see veins the size of water hoses or skin that looks paper thin over his muscles. I think you would have to be a complete idiot to already be a star in the majors and get caught cheating now--Oh yea I forgot about Manny--case closed.
Originally posted by J H: A-Rod opinions put aside, I am very disappointed with this forum. As a player, what frustrates me more than ANYTHING else is people assuming people are on steroids simply because they are bigger and stronger. Just because some fools decided to take illegal drugs to make themselves better at the game doesn't instantly mean every single person does it. It infuriates me when I hear "yeah well, he's not really that good, he's just juicing."
The accusations here of a player being on steroids...just because...is far beyond what I expected from people who I think of as good baseball minds.
Whether A-Rod is a good man or a bad man, he's a hell of a talent. And I am not personally a A-Rod fan, but the guy had two bad games. TWO. Give him a little break and let him play.
With A Rod it is not a "just because" accusation... he admitted it.
The guy is a complete jerk!
Posts: 326 | Location: Florida | Registered: December 08, 2006
When I turn on the TV to watch a game all I want to do is watch a game. I want to be entertained. I want to watch players that are talented compete against each other. I quit living in a fairy tale land long ago about these guys we watch on TV. They are not perfect. All of them are not nice guys. All of them are not the type of people we would want our sons to be. Simply put I watch the games for the pure entertainment of the game. Now if I want to watch some guys that I admire , respect and hope my kids one day will emulate then I will turn on the Military Channel and watch true heros.
Its up to the powers to be to ensure that the players follow whatever rules are in place. Arod is a he ll of a talent. If you can not see that it is because you are blinded by your dislike for him as a person. And thats fine thats your business you can like who you want to like. If you want to watch a ml game on TV and love all the guys and like all of them as people then good luck.
Originally posted by J H: A-Rod opinions put aside, I am very disappointed with this forum. As a player, what frustrates me more than ANYTHING else is people assuming people are on steroids simply because they are bigger and stronger. Just because some fools decided to take illegal drugs to make themselves better at the game doesn't instantly mean every single person does it. It infuriates me when I hear "yeah well, he's not really that good, he's just juicing."
The accusations here of a player being on steroids...just because...is far beyond what I expected from people who I think of as good baseball minds.
Whether A-Rod is a good man or a bad man, he's a hell of a talent. And I am not personally a A-Rod fan, but the guy had two bad games. TWO. Give him a little break and let him play.
I agree with you.
I agree with Coach May as well. I watch the game for entertainment, that is how it should be viewed. Most professional players care about one person, themselves. I am not talking about not having team mentality, they need that to win, wins means more money in their pocket. The way I see it is that this is a job and most are looking to keep it. My son is a team player, likes his teammates but he cares what is best for him to get ahead and not the guy who may replace him. This is not HS or college.
AROD has made a lot of mistakes growing up, has a coach who most likely understands and can relate to him better and won't take ****, but you can never take away his talent.
Forget the potholes in the road and celebrate the journey instead...anonymous
Posts: 12757 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
JH, I understand your point. However, steriods were just one of several reasons I listed that makes me dislike A-Rod. Steroids is just the one topic that sparked most of the conversation on here. I know he's a tremendous talent, I don't dispute it. I'm just saying he appears to me to be a world class jerk. And no, it's not just two bad games, it's every post-season up until now. He batted below .200 during the 2005 and 2006 post-season. His wikipedia page has an entire section documenting and discussing his lack of clutch play. His former manager, Joe Torre, in his book said he was referred to by teammates as "A-Fraud". Not a big deal what I think, just voicing an opinion that I think many share. I don't want to see that guy get a ring.
Posts: 161 | Location: Alabama | Registered: November 24, 2008
I have to agree with JH and Coach May also. Stop all this whining about ARod and steroids and all the rest. If you think the game is still dirty and that bothers you, why watch it? If you think the highest paid players are still cheating,why turn on the tube?
How many players in all professional and amateur sports are currently taking HGH? You probably cannot count that high. Gentlemen and ladies, we cannot reinvent the wheel. This is a game we love. Either you accept it for what it is, or you find another outlet for yourselves until the sport meets your standards.
0-4 and 4 strikeouts against Burnett isn't exactly lighting it up either
Good point, Zombywolf. I would just argue that Howard has never to my knowledge been linked to steroids, much less an admitted user like Alex. Also, the big chubby guy physique is not what I picture when I think "steroid user". He, Prince Fielder, CC Sabathia don't fit the profile, IMO. But I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the internet!
Posts: 161 | Location: Alabama | Registered: November 24, 2008
GW, you truly are remarkable. In the midst of watching my country being turned into something the founding father's woundn't even recognize, you manage to brighten everyone's day with a wonderful sense of humor and an A+ for creativity! Many thanks.
BTW, an original of that Tin Box Tiddly Winks complete set, with the 20 page Historical Handbook (of course) is probably worth more than my car.
Originally posted by J H: A-Rod opinions put aside, I am very disappointed with this forum. As a player, what frustrates me more than ANYTHING else is people assuming people are on steroids simply because they are bigger and stronger. Just because some fools decided to take illegal drugs to make themselves better at the game doesn't instantly mean every single person does it. It infuriates me when I hear "yeah well, he's not really that good, he's just juicing."
The accusations here of a player being on steroids...just because...is far beyond what I expected from people who I think of as good baseball minds.
Whether A-Rod is a good man or a bad man, he's a hell of a talent. And I am not personally a A-Rod fan, but the guy had two bad games. TWO. Give him a little break and let him play.
With A Rod it is not a "just because" accusation... he admitted it.
The guy is a complete jerk!
Oh he is a jerk? You know A Rod personally? He may have done some things wrong but does that make him a jerk? You are just making yourself sound ignorant.
Posts: 25 | Location: harrisonburg | Registered: February 28, 2008
