If you have a kid play for your team, who is extremly talented, let's say, batting .500, 99% fielding percentage, and have a great arm that can pitch 9 Inn shotout games. Do you give him Star status in your team? Would you ever sit him out when the championship game is on the line? Will you tolerate if his Dad is calling the pitches outside the fence? What will you do if this kid's dad threat to transfer his son if you don't play him for one game? I am talking about "serious" sports here, no HS or LL. It's about college kids mostly. I know one story for sure, a star player in a college team of different major sport( not baseball) threat the coach that he wants out because he is not happy with the coach. The coach kneeld down in front him and cried, bag him to stay. I think the coaches job is on the line if this kid leaves. That's why he is so scared. This is a true story. You may heard a lot of stories like this, but this one is to the extreme in my opinion.
Posts: 118 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 06, 2007
Let me add this for you---my last son came out of college in the late 90's so I have no horse in this race---BUT--- you are a sad example of a parent---let the kid become a "star" in HS---then you can boast---
TRhit
Posts: 19135 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002
TR, I am thoroughly convinced Star Dad is a sham poster.
Remember how just days ago he claimed he knew nothing of baseball and was only interested in his son?
Well, in the past few days he has argued hitting techniques, and posted several notes about in-depth baseball experiences including some in which he admits to being the provider of instruction.
Big, fat liar, whoever it is. Just someone trying to stir things up. The best approach is to ignore him, though I suppose he and his pidgin English will resurface under another name.
Posts: 2425 | Location: Virginia | Registered: February 01, 2006
Dear friend, I never response to personal insult on a message board. That's my rule. So feel free to post your opinion. Those who did the personal insult will be embarassed by their own words. I am just speaking out of my opinion on all sort of topics, you either like or not. Feel free to speak out.
Posts: 118 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 06, 2007
The coach kneeld down in front him and cried, bag him to stay.
BS! If the player is as good as you say it would be a national story. The coach would have a talk with the player on what the rules will be. If the player doesn't like it, the coach will tell the player not to let the door hit him on the rear on the way out.
Are there coaches who look the other way on certain violations? Yes (Bobby Bowden)! But coaches don't allow the players to own them.
Posts: 1632 | Location: Mid-Atlantic | Registered: October 29, 2007
The coach kneeld down in front him and cried, bag him to stay.
BS! If the player is as good as you say it would be a national story. Otherwise the coach would tell the player not to let the door hit him on the rear on the way out.
A lot of stories behind the door you will never hear in you life time. If you are in the coaching profession, you will hear it.
Posts: 118 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 06, 2007
[quote]know one story for sure, a star player in a college team of different major sport( not baseball) threat the coach that he wants out because he is not happy with the coach. The coach kneeld down in front him and cried, bag him to stay.
I'd bench the star player and be rid of him.
Posts: 75 | Location: Fairfax, VA | Registered: January 04, 2007
Originally posted by RJM: So a poster who claims to know nothing about sports is now an insider! LOL! See you in the funny papers. Over and out.
I said it before, I know nothing about the baseball system (Income of minors, Draft..etc) but I like to do resaerch on baseball, so I can teach my kid how to play it. On my profile, I listed "Baseball coach for my son only", is that clear?
Never coached other kids but I still like to give out my research opinions on baseball techniques for discussion only.
Posts: 118 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 06, 2007
Stardad-WRONG!!! I WAS in the coaching profession for 20 years, and NEVER, NEVER did I hear of a coach begging a kid to play! That kind of personality would never go into coaching in the first place! And, concerning another of your truly STUPID posts-if your kid continues to listen to you instead of his coach during a game, he may do as I and a couple of other coaches I know have done-send him up in the sands, uniform and all, to sit by you. So sit down, shut up, eat your popcorn and get out of your son's way!
"Do the next right thing."
Posts: 97 | Location: between Dallas and Denton | Registered: July 12, 2007
Assuming this is a real situation, this is the most ridiculous situation I've ever heard of!!! I'm far from being in any kind of coaches circle, just a dad whose kids love the game. But every coach I've ever run into, since we left daddyball anyway, would tell the kid and the dad to take a hike or at least drastically reduce his playing time.
I do know of one travel coach who favored his big time player at 14U. The kid would act out when he didn't get a hit, throw tantrums, throw his helmet in the dugout, etc. The coach tolerated it because he had a big bat. At the college level? The coach would need to grow a pair.
Posts: 62 | Location: Atlanta | Registered: September 04, 2006
I would say if the kid is that talented the coach should let the player set the lineup and the dad could call the pitches. I've noticed the Cav's coaches bend over backward to keep Bron happy. I had a travel coach tell me that if my 13yo would play for him he'd let him set the lineup whenever he wanted, and he's not even close to being as good as the player you're describing! You could even work out some kind of deal where the bench-warmers took care of his bat bag and have a sponsor make sure that he's got seeds and power-aide for the games.
Posts: 646 | Location: Ohio | Registered: February 04, 2006
Originally posted by Innocent Bystander: I would say if the kid is that talented the coach should let the player set the lineup and the dad could call the pitches. I've noticed the Cav's coaches bend over backward to keep Bron happy. I had a travel coach tell me that if my 13yo would play for him he'd let him set the lineup whenever he wanted, and he's not even close to being as good as the player you're describing! You could even work out some kind of deal where the bench-warmers took care of his bat bag and have a sponsor make sure that he's got seeds and power-aide for the games.
Enjoy your post, my friend. Well, that is a little bit extreme though. If I want set up the lineup or calling every pitches, I better put some money in the team, and make myself a coach. Hey, being a coach for the LL team is not fun, you have to be in every game 1 hr earlier, under 100 degree heat, hitting ground balls or fly balls to the players. You take blame for every loss while kids got all the credit for the win. Coaching is a very hard job to do especially at LL level, because you don't got paid for doing it. Since you don't got paid, you really don't care about how great your star player is (unless he is your son), you can sit him out whenever you like, the worst case is that you won't see him next year. If the coach's son is the weak player, he may jealous your talented son, and wish your son quit ASAP. But at college level, when their jobs are on the line, they better think it twice before they do anything with their star player. Even they talk tough in front of the media, behind the back door, they will treat the star player like God. Because the college team success mostly denpend on recruiting, "recruiting success" is one of the way to evaluate coach's job performance, if you are a bomb head coach, don't know how to "troll" the talents, you will be gone from the coaching profession very soon. No matter how knowledgable you are, you got know how to "sham" your player to play for you. This is the fact, no coach can deny it.
Posts: 118 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 06, 2007