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Then if you add in the fact that many of these teams have coaching that is very good and instruction that is very good there is even a bigger advantage.

This is the key right here. But no parent should assume just because a team carries the travel label there will be quality coaching. There are plenty of travel teams up to 14U started by dads to give their kid the advantage after he got "screwed" someplace else.

That is very true RJM that is why I said many and not all. The key thing to look for is coaching and instruction and the type of person the coach is as well. Usually the better players will gravitate towards these types of coaches. The teams that are ran by the Dad or Dads you describe will always be in flux always be embroiled in some type of controversy as well. They are easy to spot and need to be avoided at all cost.

if you don't play club ball it doesnt mean anything. I played 1 year of club ball and i am playing college ball. I think not pitching 6 months out of the year helped save my arm. My parents weren't dumb enough to throw my arm out in meaningless games.

Not trying to get on you but your previous posts are confusing.
"I throw 75-78 am a lefty but my ball tails a butt load and i am going to pitch in college next year and have before its all about movement and location."
You also ask questions that show you have Little or no proper training. Plus you said you would play college next year. Also said you had mild tendinitis.
Just keeping it real. You are not a good candidate to give advice on this. You have also had 2 posts deleted by a moderator.

Hey bozo i really don't care what you think of me i am getting my school paid for with baseball next semester so i could care less what you think.

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Originally posted by NCULEFT:
Hey bozo i really don't care what you think of me i am getting my school paid for with baseball next semester so i could care less what you think.

Maybe a portion of your school is being paid for. But I'll bet it's less than half being paid for by baseball. I've never heard of colleges throwing baseball money at pitchers throwing in the upper 70's. Every pitcher on my son's high school team throws harder. What conference will you be playing in?

I was curious why the discrepancy in your posts.

funny thing i got clocked in the 80-85 range consistently 82 last week. I will be playing in the GSAC. 80-85 Lefty fastball that tails and sinks, Cutter, change and curve i can throw all for strikes...good enough. Throwing 75-78 got me all league in high school. Bottom line is you aren't the one paying for part of my school or the one who decides when i pitch so i really don't care.

Looks like a good League:

STANDINGS (May 29, 2009 - Final Stats)

GSAC Overall
Team W L T Pct W L T Pct
Point Loma Nazarene. 28 8 0 .778 45 13 0 .776
Fresno Pacific...... 24 12 0 .667 39 21 0 .650
Biola............... 23 13 0 .639 35 24 0 .593
Azusa Pacific....... 22 14 0 .611 36 20 0 .643
The Master's........ 22 14 0 .611 37 22 0 .627
California Baptist.. 16 20 0 .444 27 23 0 .540
Concordia CA........ 16 20 0 .444 22 26 0 .458
Vanguard............ 13 23 0 .361 19 28 0 .404
Westmont............ 12 24 0 .333 16 31 0 .340
San Diego Christian. 4 32 0 .111 13 34 0 .277

Established in 1986 by like-minded institutions, the GSAC members are all Christian colleges. They are purposely aligned to be similar in enrollment, academics, athletics and student life. The GSAC uniquely links sport sponsorship to enrollment and adjusts athletic scholarships and financial aid to the cost of education at each institution, thereby maintaining a constant ratio for all members.

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Hey bozo i really don't care what you think of me i am getting my school paid for with baseball next semester so i could care less what you think.

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Bottom line is you aren't the one paying for part of my school or the one who decides when i pitch so i really don't care.

Dad, academic grants or financial grants paying for college doesn't count as baseball paying your way.

I am getting some money for baseball, some for grades, some grants but the bottom line is i am getting money... a good portion to play baseball at school for a top program in NAIA. Is someone a little jealous they didn't play past high school. Like I said before you don't decide when i pitch or how much i pitch so i could give a rat's *** what you think.

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i could give a rat's *** what you think.

Sounds like you will fit right in. Good luck.

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Is someone a little jealous they didn't play past high school.

No. I think a particular poster's behavior is questionable, along with his ability to jump to conclusions on situations where he is ignorant. Fortunately I'm not the mean spirited type. Otherwise I might post something comparing my experience and my oldest kid's experience like, "Oh Geezzz, only NAIA ball?" But I won't since it would be insulting to other posters on the board who may be playing NAIA ball and aren't the jerk you are. Another thing. You're dealing with mostly adults on this board. Stop acting like a punk. It won't get you far in your life.