after running an ad for a 14 year old player this is what I received..

Subject: player
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:48:42 +0000

what tournaments are you scheduled to play?
how many other "A" players do have on your team?
do you need an elite middle infielder and pitcher?
how many tournaments do you plan on playing?
what league do you play in?
where is your home field?
do you play 60/90? or 54/80 (I will only play 60/90)

Me: Right handed/switch hitter/ spec. in middle infield and pitch
have played all over the u.s. last year with team mizuno of florida, golden triangle of penn., briarwood out of denver, played with team illinois in the late summer and fall, raiders out of florida(winter ball)

I am not looking to be coached, I am looking for a 14 year old team to play for in April & May, we'll see how things develop from there and talk about the future tournaments later. If your looking for a "player" please call


I couldnt believe it,,this is the same dad that caused a thread here to be deleted about a year ago..seems the old man loves promoting his kid,,even wrote the response like his kid answered the ad..amazing

I really don't see the problem.
I send, I mean my son sends out answers like this all of the time. Do you have a problem with talented kids?

Even if this kid is a good player I'm sure a lot of coaches run away screaming and hide when they see him and his father coming to a tryout!

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Originally posted by Doughnutman:
I really don't see the problem.
I send, I mean my son sends out answers like this all of the time. Do you have a problem with talented kids?

i'd love to see your job resume if you dont find a problem with this..and you ask "do you have a problem with talented kids?" thats amazing that you can come to a conclusion like that...hmmmmm...you actually fit the bill,,can that be you? hmmmmm.lol


my response was "have your agent call me"

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Originally posted by fillsfan:
Even if this kid is a good player I'm sure a lot of coaches run away screaming and hide when they see him and his father coming to a tryout!

actually the "dad" was fired by 11 parents after his 1st year of travel coaching..11 stayed and he and his kid were asked to leave.

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Originally posted by Doughnutman:
I really don't see the problem.
I send, I mean my son sends out answers like this all of the time. Do you have a problem with talented kids?

no problem with talented kids if indeed they were uh hum ELITE..great catch word huh? now the dad thinking his kid is talented and elite is another story..you cant promote it you cant buy it

You should feel honored they even bothered to reply back to your ad!

Your Right - UNBELIEVABLE!!

If a player is looking to play for me and states he's not looking to be coached, it's delete time. He doesn't want to be part of a team. He thinks he is the team. I'll bet he's not as good as he thinks. Or as good as his dad has convinced him.

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Originally posted by batdad25:
You should feel honored they even bothered to reply back to your ad!

Your Right - UNBELIEVABLE!!

Maybe you can create another alias.

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Originally posted by RJM:
If a player is looking to play for me and states he's not looking to be coached, it's delete time. He doesn't want to be part of a team. He thinks he is the team. I'll bet he's not as good as he thinks. Or as good as his dad has convinced him.

I just have to laugh at a dad that responds to ads under the guise of a kid,doubt a 14 year old boy could come off that way.would it be safe to say dad has some issues?

eehhhh... what are you talking about?

I am agreeing with you..

Has this kid been signed to a contract by any of the MLB teams yet? I'm sure they've all spoken with him and are drooling at the prospect of landing a talent of that magnitude! If he were to move to another country I believe he could be signed earlier.

When does this kid attend HS classes?

If that was written by a Dad I think I know him.

He's his son's worst enemy like that.

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Originally posted by Texas Crude:

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what tournaments are you scheduled to play?
how many other "A" players do have on your team?
do you need an elite middle infielder and pitcher?
how many tournaments do you plan on playing?
what league do you play in?
where is your home field?
do you play 60/90? or 54/80 (I will only play 60/90)

Me: Right handed/switch hitter/ spec. in middle infield and pitch
have played all over the u.s. last year with team mizuno of florida, golden triangle of penn., briarwood out of denver, played with team illinois in the late summer and fall, raiders out of florida(winter ball)

I am not looking to be coached, I am looking for a 14 year old team to play for in April & May, we'll see how things develop from there and talk about the future tournaments later. If your looking for a "player" please call

not for nothing, but excluding his second question and the word elite in his third, he asks good questions in his first paragraph.

He's looking to sell himself and provideed a resume in the second.

and if he didn't start the third paragraph the way he did, it seems to be a resonable response to a coaches add looking for a player.

If this was a Private Message to a coach, why would that coach make it public?

Alot of "if's" in your post. If only if!

Come on, the guy is a nut job that isn't looking for his son to be coached, he said it himself. He's soooooooo good that he just needs to be left alone and play the game.

As far as it being a private message, he didn't identify the source so where's the right to privacy violation? GEEEEEEZ!

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Originally posted by Texas Crude:

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Alot of "if's" in your post. If only if!

only one if counted.

I see a lot of nut jobs. Some sound like the guy the answered the coaches add. Some sound like wogdoggy, and some sound like you.

I do agree with Lefty34 though.

I count two but maybe things get counted differently in Texas?

I guess if he "excluded" some of his words, it wouldn't sound as bad. Maybe "if" Don Imus excluded some words recently, he'd still have a job? "If" Bush had kept us out of Iraq, 4000+ Americans would still be alive today.

The fact is he didn't exclude these words which makes his request so ridiculous. Ain't that the point the coach was trying to make here?

You're kind of defending the nutjob dad so what does that make you? I think we're the reasonable sane folks in this conversation, not you and this players dad. Ya think?

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Originally posted by Texas Crude:
Of course but the real nut jobs don't think their nut jobs.

To me that is the most UNBELIEVABLE thing about crazy parents. They really don't think they're crazy. To them everything they do is exactly what needs to be done for their superstar to shine. And like someone else stated above they are doing the exact opposite of what they think they're doing. That is, hurting their sons future instead of helping it. UNBELIEVABLE

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Originally posted by Texas Crude:
Of course but the real nut jobs don't think their nut jobs.

You got that one right. My son's travel team has several of these parents. Bragging, bad mouthing other kids, proclaiming their kid is the next coming..etc..etc.

It got so bad we just avoid these parents, regardless of what they think. Nothing personal, they just grind on the OLD nerves a bit too much. Makes you wonder.

This father/son is truely unbelievable. They need to remember that there is always a better player just over in the next county.

after i told him to have his agent call me i received this e mail


thank you
maybe you should grow up and realize that their is better talent out their than what you have currently



then I write this

O.k. kid.Either way your dad should be proud of you! You're a real class act ALREADY!probably just like the ole man.


then the father writes this in the kids behalf

no, just a kid who see's and understands politics are realizes it stink's to high heaven!!!!!!!
coaches like you don't care

then i reply


go re read your first e mail..then get a better attitude..good luck to you in your baseball future


then he looses it,,kinda knew it was comming..lol

My son's attitude is great.
Your attitude is something that needs to be evaluated. If you were really looking for a real player, you would jump at the offer. Your probably like all the rest of the political as%%%%%& managers that manage teams that need to protect there own kids because there not good enough to play real travel baseball.

My kid doesn't need to be coached he just wants to play. You can't teach him anything he already doesn't know. You come across intimidated or insecure of that fact. He has professional coaches!

You sound like a man that is trying to fill a void that didn't exist as a child. I'm sorry for you. I hope your team is successful, probably not because you don't play competitive real travel baseball.
Take Care

" You missed the boat "

wow,,,what a nut job im thinking,,so i reply with this

If you sir came with the boat "we" didnt miss anything but a miserable year ...I truly feel sorry for your kid. Hopefully you'll find a team in time this year that will put up with your attitude.Good luck.And consider this,,,maybe it wasnt politics,maybe you just turn peoples stomachs.????

then i get this

We are already playing idiot!
He just wanted to play games locally during the week, and on weekends when he's not traveling down to Texas, Georgia and Florida. I instructed him that if he applies to ads like yours, he will get the kind of responses he's gotten like yours. Intimidated, Insecure and Immature managers like you.
You should really be ashamed of yourself! You really think your doing justice to the families and kid's that participate in/on your team?
Really


so i laugh and think wow the kids got more airline points than bill gates..

so i write back....intimidated insecure immature? NAH ...What im really afraid of is travelling around with a mental midget like yourself.As long as your his dad his upside is limited..do your kid a favor and make yourself SCARCE at his games.

then it gets real ugly with swearing and name calling,,now you know whats wrong with yout sports