Texan, I started the nursing mothers on Guiness element. In England, new mothers in hospital are offered Guiness both for the iron content and the dialation of blood vessels. I'm not surprised a US nurse would be appalled. I found many differences in the medical field there.
"They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." --- Terry Pratchett
her crowd is a bit different - - I once walked in "unannounced" on an unsupervised track/cc party that we found out about - - & I'm figuring - "I gotcha"
I found coolers full to the brim with poweraid & bottled water - - kitchen counters lined with pans of spagetti, lasagna, salsa, trail mix, and UNBUTTERED popcorn
I made some excuse about needing something from my daughter's jeep - - anyway they welcomed me to stay for the 2 Steve Prefontaine movies that they were gonna watch (4+ hrs) -
I mumbled something about meeting some friends at B'dubs for some wings & a FB game and quickly left
TPM, 20 mi west of Y'Town, 10 mi south of Kent
Posts: 3616 | Location: NE Ohio | Registered: December 27, 2002
My son got his official-visit package in the mail yesterday from a school notorious for its party rep. I'm sure I read in no less than four different places in the package that they have a zero-tolerance policy for alchohol consumption (and other activities as well) by recruits and student hosts during official visits. ...not entirely clear what "zero tolerance" consequences might be, but it sounds foreboding enough.
I'm not so naive as to think it doesn't happen, or that he won't find himself in a situation where he's faced with a choice during his visit. But I have spoken with him about it, thanks in large part to this thread, and he's made it clear that he's not going to jeapordize his opportunity to play at this school just to have a beer. He can wait, and he knows how to say no without being disrespectful or judgemental. It will be interesting to learn what his actual experience in this area will be.
Film at 11:00...
Posts: 377 | Location: LaLa Land | Registered: March 24, 2005
There are place you don't show up drunk. Official recruiting visits is one of them. If the kid is not bright enough to get that, then college baseball, among other things, probably won't work out.
Posts: 4786 | Location: Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002
As in all situations know what the rules are going in. If your son finds himself in a situation that may cause trouble he has to make a decision. As parents the "we know it is going on mentality" has to be tempered with we know but you better not be involved and if you are you face the music. The college situation is much different than high school as they are on their own and sad to say drinking is glorified as a right of passage in those years.
Posts: 1560 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: January 06, 2003
As I have said on other occassions kids will do what you let them. In my youth my parents laid down the law and you better abide by it. Black and white no areas of grey. They were tough. If I screwed up I knew what was coming. There was consequences to my actions. Of course that was in the dark ages when parents were not enlightened by all the psychologists and psychiatrists who today write books telling parents how to raise their kids. How to be their friend and be mindful of their childs self esteem. Anybody can be a mother or father but it takes special people to be moms and dads.
Posts: 1560 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: January 06, 2003
Of course that was in the dark ages when parents were not enlightened by all the psychologists and psychiatrists who today write books telling parents how to raise their kids
You and I must have lived in the same neighborhood growing up (I grew up in Pennsylvania) ... and we used a similar approach with our youngin' ... absolutely NO mixed messages, and he knew the basic 'law of the land' ... them that pays the bills makes the rules. We had no problems when he was in high school, and when he was in college, what he did at school out of our eyesight and earshot was between him and God. But whenever he was home for breaks, holidays, or the summer, he respected our rules until he was on his own.
HRDAD ...
Mary Ann * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
Posts: 3937 | Location: Somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight ... | Registered: January 02, 2003
There are a lot of things I learned from my parents however I must admit at the time I did not like everything but who said being a parent demanded approval from your kids. As I look at it you are stuck(for lack of a better description) with one another so make the best of it. somebody onc said it is easy to do the right thing when everybody is looking the hard part is doing the same when nobody is looking.
Posts: 1560 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: January 06, 2003
MY position from the get-go has been - - parent your kids (& 18 yr ods) to deal with the real word, communicate, be consistent, keep lovin' 'em when they make mistakes, comunicate some more
the popular position seems to be - - outrage, cross schools off your list, iron fist (w/18 yr olds), zero tolerance, & more outrage (or is it rage?)
AND - I have also been informed the later position is actually the "healthy view"
go figure!
Bear, clue me in on the "zero tolerance" deal regarding an 18 yr old who's about to leave home - "out of the will", or what?? (and hey, I got NO leverage there)
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Quite simply if a student-athlete is drinking, and gets caught by local authorities, the school administration, or the coaches, by NCAA and college guidelines that he/she agreed too, there the student athlete would be become a student and removed from the baseball program. ie college has zero tolerance for underage drinking!
Regards Bear
Posts: 1512 | Location: Fairland, Maryland USA | Registered: December 26, 2002
