I know this is above but just wondering how many umps have had this happen and what did you do?

http://www.ajc.com/highschool/content/sports/highschool...tab_newstab#comments

You can see the video on the left hand side about halfway down the page under see related. Video.

I actually know these kids and can believe it happened.

I had it happen one time in summer ball. The catcher set up outside and the pitcher pitched a fastball right down the middle. I stood there and took it in the chest. I walked in front of the catcher and cleaned off home plate and told the catcher I would eject him and the pitcher if another ball got by him the rest of the game. He was diving and blocking everything. It was worth getting hit by one ball.

I have not had this happen to me, but worked on a crew when it happened to a partner. He ejected the pitcher, catcher and skipper.

From this video, that's exactly what should have been done in this case. The hit was obviously intentional. The catcher is beginning his act at the relase of the pitch.

Never of this sort.......I was struck once by a errant pitch out attempt.........the catcher called for a pitch out.........hopped out and the pitcher threw it right down the center of the plate........I took it in the chest protector.......no problems.....

The runner on first was attempting to steal and the catcher attempted to reach back and glove the ball.......so I believed it was unintentional....


This one, however, seems to be blatantly intentional.......

If you read the background stuff, they were bitching about balls and strikes the whole game. The pitcher's brother (SS) was rung up the inning before. I don't think there is any doubt it was intentional. I need to be sure, but if I am, I'm dumping the battery, the HC, and anyone who so much as cracks a smile. I will also seek a lifetime ban on everyone involved, and I think the baseball program should be pulled for a year, at least. I might also seek criminal charges. Other than that, I'm ok with it.

I agree with all....They catcher, pitcher and head coach should have been tossed. Their should be some action against the school and coach. WHAT HAS HAPPENED?

So far all that has happened is that the principal of the high school has talked with the coaches and they are pleading total innocence. The Georgia High school association will get involved at some point. The catcher was a senior and the pitcher a junior so I am not sure what the punishment ( if any ) will be. I have umpired with these kids before, the whole team is not bad but they do have some rotten apples in the basket. The catcher has signed to play college ball. I, like you guys would have run the pither, catcher and head coach.

If I am the college coach, who recruited that catcher, I would rescind the scholarship of that catcher....HE WOULD NOT PLAY FOR ME!

I recall when this manuever was part of the game and accepted---the good home plate umpires will never have this problem

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the good home plate umpires will never have this problem

So were you at this game? Just because a player disagrees with an umpire, it makes the umpire bad?????

bulldog

Where do I say "bad ump""

No I wasnt at the game in question? WHERE YOU?

I made a simple statement reharding what used to be

You inferred the umpire was bad by:

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good home plate umpires will never have this problem

And no, I wasn't there.

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and I think the baseball program should be pulled for a year,

Dash I think this is a little too much because you are now punishing kids who had nothing to do with this action. Punish the ones who did it - catcher, pitcher and probably coach - but don't punish everyone.

This is a travesty, a mockery and ridiculos act and should be punished and punished hard.

I may be wrong but I don't think so about this. I do not think the head coach or his assistants had anything to do with this. The times I have had them the coaches seemed like pretty stand up guys. We have had a discussion or two but nothing out of the way. I truly think this was three players who set this up and the sad part is one will be drafted Thursday probably in the first round.

I am in no way am condoning this and hope they get in trouble. But... I was watching it with my son's teammates, because we played with these guys in Little League. One of them asked the question, "How is this any different than throwing at a batter?"
They began to talk about all the times in their playing careers (they were all juniors and below) that they had known pitchers to throw at batters intentionally. They said that most of them every one knew what was happening.
Should the same penalties be imposed for throwing at a batter as they are at throwing at an ump?
I have to admit that I was outraged when I watched it. But after hearing these guys talk, realized that we, society, baseball community, do not hold pitchers to the same standard when they are throwing at a batter.
I wonder how many of us protect our batters as much as we are demanding protection in this situation. We were talking about how many pitchers will be drafted this weekend that have on multiple occasions hit a batter intentionally for standing too close, hitting a home run, making a jesture, stealing a sign. They were asking what is the big deal about hitting an ump versus a player. They were not justifying this either.
I wonder how many of us get as upset about a player being hit as we do about an ump.
I was at my 15 year old son's game this weekend and an adult and coach said to their pitcher "That batter is too close to your plate, you better back him up." Would you have ejected them on the next inside pitch? Most of us laugh at this but it is the same.
Again, I am not condoning this, these ball players just got me to thinking.

Hitting a batter is a part of the game. By doing something during the game like showing up the pitcher, standing on top of the plate, tagging hard, etc, the batter knows what to expect.

The umpire on the other hand is just doing his job.

The two acts are, IMO, not on the same level.

Be careful. You are saying that it is appropriate to intentionally injure another player and that is okay. This has made me think about this game my family loves. Have we crossed the line? Is this a time for a wakeup call for the baseball community?

Hitting a player and injuring them are not the same thing. You don't hit them in the head. I see guys all the time get plunked with 90+ mph fastballs and all that is left is a bruise.

It is what it is...it is part of the game we all love. Baseball has been like this since the beginning. If you play it the right way, and don't disrespect other players or the game, there aren't many problems.

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Originally posted by Jeff Connell:
One of them asked the question, "How is this any different than throwing at a batter?"

Here's how. When the batter sees a pitch coming at his head, he does everything he can to protect himself and/or get out of the way. The umpire must track that pitch all the way to the glove and not budge a fraction of an inch. He is relying on the catcher to catch the ball (and to prevent him from being seriously injured). I hope you can see the difference.

I understand dash, but do you eject every pitcher that throws at a batter, even if he gets out of the way? If not, why should we expect any difference when it happens to us?

Jeff: I have to say you are taking something part of the game like hitting the batter and comparing it to something like having the catcher intentionally move out of the way to allow it to hit an umpire...think about what you are saying.

How about this...I don't like the third base coach, so next time the left fielder and warm up guy are playing catch, the warm up guy intentionally lets the ball go by and hits the coach...it's no part of the game.

If you don't like your kids to get thrown at, teach them the right way to play the game.