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thecloser
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Fielder throws glove at batted ball & hits it.
Where is the award based from?
Delayed dead ball, but, would it be different, if say, F4 vs F8 were to do it?
 
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piaa_ump
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does not matter if F4 or F8...no difference.....3 base award for all runners from bases TOP.

NFHS 8-3-3 (condensed)

each runner is awarded three bases if a batted ball is touched by detached player equipment provided the ball when touched is on or over fair ground
 
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pilsner
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each runner is awarded three bases if a batted ball is touched by detached player equipment provided the ball when touched is on or over fair ground

...or is a fair ball while on or over foul ground, or is over foul ground in a situation such that it might become a fair ball.
Additionally, the award is determined from the base occupied at the time of the infraction.
 
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pilsner, please site your rule ruling.
I believe T.O.P., is correct.
 
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Award is made from the time of infraction.

FED: 8-3-5a
NCAA 8-3g(2)
OBR MLBUM 5.9 and PBUC 3.9

This is the only award besides a walk during which the ball remains live. In this case, it remains alive until playing action ceases, and then any necessary award is made.

thecloser:
When one disagrees with another poster on rules, it would be a good idea--and common courtesy--to look up the rule rather than just asserting "I believe you're wrong."
 
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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
Award is made from the time of infraction.

FED: 8-3-5a
NCAA 8-3g(2)
OBR MLBUM 5.9 and PBUC 3.9

This is the only award besides a walk during which the ball remains live. In this case, it remains alive until playing action ceases, and then any necessary award is made.

thecloser:
When one disagrees with another poster on rules, it would be a good idea--and common courtesy--to look up the rule rather than just asserting "I believe you're wrong."


3FG and pilsner are correct it is TOI....
 
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Jimmy03
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pilsner, please site your rule ruling.
I believe T.O.P., is correct.


No insult...just etiquette....when you ask a question you should be able to consider the answers appropriately. If you feel the need to discard them, you have sound reasoning.
 
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pilsner
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I wasn't insulted at all. "the closer" just asked for a rule cite. 3FG did so before I saw the question so there was no need for me to elaborate.
This is probably why I don't post as often as I used to. There are more very knowledegable umpires answering questions than there used to be on this site. Certainly several who know more than I do. If I see that a question has been answered or a rule has been cited there isn't much need to answer again.
 
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piaa_ump
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we need you more regularly Pilsner.....its the mix that makes this umpire crew work as well as it does...
 
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pilsner
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Thanks for saying so, Piaa.
 
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I'll second PIAA on that pilsner. The addition of Dash, Jimmy, you and 3finger have helped PIAA and me with this site. I know there others that should be on the list that escaping right now.


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dash_riprock
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Thanks for your kind words Mike.
 
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pilsner
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Thanks to you also, Michael....and I believe with this post I have become one of the dreaded HSBBWeb "Old Timers". Of course, at my age, I think I already knew that. bigeyes
 
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Michael S. Taylor
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Now that you are officially an "Old ****" you have to stay. party


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dash_riprock
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Originally posted by Michael S. Taylor:
I'll second PIAA on that pilsner. The addition of Dash, Jimmy, you and 3finger have helped PIAA and me with this site. I know there others that should be on the list that escaping right now.

You forgot TRHit.
 
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piaa_ump
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man this thread is full of old timers.....
 
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LOW337
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Originally posted by thecloser:
Fielder throws glove at batted ball & hits it.
Where is the award based from?
Delayed dead ball, but, would it be different, if say, F4 vs F8 were to do it?


Detached Players Equipment.

One base on a Pitched Ball
Two bases on a Thrown ball
Three bases on a Batted Ball

Correct, Senor Umpires?
 
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Michael S. Taylor
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Correct.


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TRhit
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Dash


are you doing any games in the PG Qualifier at Baseball Heaven the 12th thru 14th of this month?


TRhit

THE KIDS TODAY DO NOT THROW ENOUGH !!!!!
 
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dash_riprock
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Dash


are you doing any games in the PG Qualifier at Baseball Heaven the 12th thru 14th of this month?

TR - I am sure I will but they have not been assigned yet (probably early next week). I'll let you know.
 
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