Have any of you guys (age range maybe 35-50) experienced any 'andropause' symptoms? It has to do with decreasing testosterone levels as age creeps upon us. I copied the info below online--

"...When there is less testosterone available to do its work, the testosterone target-organ response decreases, bringing about many changes. Since there is great variability in testosterone levels among healthy men, therefore not all men will experience the same changes to the same extent. But typical responses to low testosterone levels can be broadly classified into:

General symptoms: such as increased body fat, decreased muscle mass and strength, loss of body height (due to osteoporosis) and loss of energy.

Psychological symptoms: such as swinging mood, depression, anxiety, lack of vitality and sleep problems.


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I hope I am all right !!!!---64 years of age and have none of those symptoms--in fact I grew two inches in height the past years and dropped 4 inches from my waist line over the past two years--where did the other 2 inches go?

Wow, TR, it must be that good Manchester water!! That's really rare to actually increase your height in your 60s!

Tr, check your Knee. Not the right one OR the left one, the other one.(wee) It sounds like it may have gone there.(the extra 2 inches) Krak, I'm not getting fat, honest! Everyone tells me I'm not fat, I'm just a widebody! I haven't gotten any shorter yet.(ht) But I'm not near as strong as I used to be, don't sleep as well and certainly get sore quicker from heavy physical activity. Are you saying it's because I'm old? Men don't talk about stuff like this! We're tuff and indestructible, and besides, all the cute females on the baseball web might read about this stuff. Are you asking this because you have something that can help me, or is this a male bonding session? Men are so good at posturing, strutting around like roosters and acting like they know everything. (we're cool) We like to throw around big important names and act like we're in with all the cool people. We like to tell people all the important things we're doing and have done, all the amazing things we're going to do in the near future. Yea we're cool, nobody else is quite as important as we are. Good luck gettin us to talk about any male problems, we got no problems!(at least we ain't admittin ta any)

The ostrich that keeps his head out of the sand lives longer!! That's how I'm approaching mid-life!!

Having passed thru mid life let me tell you it is great---you can sit back and look at all you have done or not done--I have no regrets at all

are you saying this is MANopause

I think this is supposed to be serious but you guys are making me laugh! I've always heard guys whine about creaky knees, trick knees, bad knees, wee.. never mind. My knees have always been so good to me until about 5 days ago when I helped my brother pour 4 truck loads of concrete, and my left knee has been sore ever since. I don't know what's up with that. I know one thing, I've been drinking way too much coffee lately. I didn't start drinking coffee or pop (soda) until I was about 34 yrs young, and now I always seem to be drinking one or the other. Mtn Dew and high powered coffee, no wonder I can't sleep! (oh yea, I'm gettin old too) Seems like everyone wants me to do something for them yesterday, my daughter is getting married in a month.(April 28th) She wants to live in the old home place, so I had to kick out the renters who were only 20k behind but I didn't have the heart to kick them out.(I am such a softie) Now the place is trashed and I've got to get it fixed up. I lay awake trying to figure out how I'm going to get everything done and you're thinking "for the love of Pete, would you shut up!"

This site is a form of Group Therapy.
Forget the Knee's, Wait till your eye's start going.
I'm getting hot Flashes, is that a sign.

innocent bystander
it's something in the concrete that does that to people,bad knee,excessive coffee drinking, insomnia.like i always say life is the best at 330 in the morning.lol

I am so glad that I am not an old fa rt like you guys!

....only thing worse than an old f a r t is a young f a r t.

I'm a very quiet person, I speak softly and I won't cut people off. If they want to hear my opinion they're going to have to be quiet for a bit. So if I'm with 3 or more people I won't say boo, because everyone else is fighting to be heard. The ladies always say,"oh he's so quiet and shy", whatever! A friend of mine is a builder and he talks nonstop. He's 6'3 305 big strong guy, and it drives him nuts that he's never been able to beat me in a strength contest, I'm a shrimpy 6'1 210 (compared to him anyways) and he's always trying to outdo me in something.(lifting and carrying) We have so much fun with it, but we're getting a little old for that kind of stuff. I help him out on different jobs and his mother-in-law always seems to tell them before they meet me, "Oh you're going to love him, we call him the s*xy Amishman". (no such thing, and if there was it sure isn't me!) So I'm embarrassed before I get there because I know they're going to be disappointed.
I have a feeling alot of the people on hsbbweb are "quiet people", I think that you can be a little shy and you can talk without yelling. You can yell quietly with the exclamation point!!! Sweet! And if you don't like what someone is saying you move on without offending people. You guys have been too nice, I'll say something stupid and nobody seems to care. Thanks

innocent bystander
i don't think you can say anything stupid here,people percieve what they want.you sound alot like me ,work hard for a living .nothing wrong with that.the coffee thing,i don't do the dew i'm a diet pepsi guy.i do foundations for a living . we all love our kids, baseball. we can't be that bad.keep posting.

When I was 18 forty sounded sooo old! Now 60 is looking pretty good, and the way time is going by 50 and 60 will go by (if I'm still here) in a hurry. "Life comes atcha fast". I feel like I'm rushing through life and I can't figure out what the big hurry is! I love beautiful trees and flowers, baseball and BASEBALL!! I just have to learn to say NO to all the people wanting me to do just a "little" something that turns into a big something and keeps me away from baseball and my kids, flowers and trees and rest for my weary bones. Have a great day guys

Innocent Bystander, if you really are drinking a lot more fluids than you used to, you might want to get your blood checked out. One of the side effects of Adult Onset Diabetes is increased thirst. I speak from experience.

I probably don't drink as much as I used to, but instead of milk and water it's coffee and pop. But you're right, at my age I really need to get a few things checked out including my blood. I gave blood a few weeks ago and was so embarrassed, I was done with everything and the nurse was filling the last vial and I was watching the blood rushing in and FAINTED! I don't think they've sent me anything from that, I was thinking they might.

I'm afraid of the doctor, and have read that most men are. I don't wanna know what's wrong, if there even is anything wrong. Stupid, eh? If I was playing Russian Roulette, wouldn't I at least want to know if there were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 bullets in the chamber?

I actually made it to a 'physical exam' appointment about 3 months ago, but the doctor just sat there and talked to me, never poked or prodded, just wasted my time and said "well, if you want to go have some lab work someday, we'll have something more to talk about." Great. You know how hard it is to schedule a day off for this krap? I felt like stethoscope-whipping him.

So here I sit, having made the effort, in glorious ignorance of the state of my body!! I love it! AND, my son is pitching today! It's a great day to be ignorant and alive!!

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