It's looks from all the early signings at some schools that much of their recruiting for the 2005 season has already been completed. What is the likelyhood that a player will have a chance of getting recruited in the spring?

Always some money left...even in the springtime.

Another big recruiting time is soon after the June draft.

I noticed on one D-1 site they attributed their selection of signees in part to their desire to forgoe the draft. Well, we'll see. I know at least a few of them will be sorely tempted.
My question is how realistic is it to be recruited out of state in the spring. Those coach's are busy w/ their own seasons, do they bother, or stay close to home?

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1)...What is the likelyhood that a player will have a chance of getting recruited in the spring?

Very good. It is just as likely to be recruited in the spring as it is to be recruited and then signed during the first signing period which ends in the middle of November every year. I personally know 3 players, (my son played with in high school), that were signed in the spring. Also two signed in late July a month before their respective colleges started and one even signed for a 70% ride. (One signed to play in the Big West, one in the Pac Ten and one in the West Coast Conference).

2)...My question is how realistic is it to be recruited out of state in the spring. Those coach's are busy w/ their own seasons, do they bother, or stay close to home?

The trick in being recruited out of state is to make your contacts when they (the coaches and baseball team)are at home and not on the road. If you plan your contacts accordingly there is no difference i.e., they will find the time. Specifically, they will call you and email you with enthusiasm if they interested, even over X-mas.

I find that schools go after their top needs in the fall. After x-mas break, they re-evaluate their needs based on who does not return, who is academically ineligible, who stunnk it up in the fall, etc. They use this as a guide to spring. They go through the same process after the school year and look for the late bloomers, or kids who got missed, or kids who committed to jucos who continued to develop. In the summer they also start looking for the following class.

We had a kid get offered by a large d-1 after the hs year. He did not even start during the season, but came on at the end of the hs year and in the summer after he graduated.

"I love the HSBBW"

It seems like it depends on the level, also ... not necessary D1, D2 or D3, but whether the program is tops in the nation, or somewhere below that. My son plays summer baseball with some 03s who signed D2 scholarships, one 03 who was a D1 "recruited walk-on", and some 04s who are being recruited by D1, D2, and D3s. Of all the 03s who signed last year, none of them signed in the early period and several signed in June. And neither of the two 04s who are D1 recruits signed early this year, but I'm sure they will both end up at very good programs.

As stated many times before here on this site more players get it done in the spring than they do in the fall--keep in mind that after you get past the so called "STUDS" there are a load of excellent ballplayers who will have fine college careers. And the number of thses players far outnumbers the "STUDS"

This is something all too many people forget--the majority of the HS players who go on to college and play ball may not be draft picks but they are excellent players and what may not be a draft pick coming out of HS can blossom in college and be a draft pick in three years. At the very least they will be excellent college level players and that still puts them in a very select group.

As for seeing the player--most players will have been seen already or a way will be found to see them in the spring( alumni etc). I can tell you for a fact that I get calls every day regarding players so the activity is there. They are now looking to fill their needs that have not been addressed or have suddenly opened up.

DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE!!!! There are good things still ahead for those who have not yet signed. Just make sure you keep the programs on your wish list up dtae on what you are doing and DO GET THEM YOUR SPRING SCHEDULE !!!

BUT make sure you are applying to colleges as if you are not a baseball player--you don't want to be left without a college if your baseball dreams don't happen.

Just a few thoughts from where I sit

TRhit

In reviewing some schools early signing names, it seems as if many of these schools have HUGE groups of recruits. (Maybe due to the changes in Juco transfer eligibility )
Should these schools be crossed off the list? Who are the coaches waiting to "see about" recruits who don't get accepted, get drafted, or make a "bad life decision" or their Juniors and Seniors who are draft eligible?

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"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby, Hall of Famer

Mrand Mrs

Who is talking to your son?
Who is serious?
if you have a dream list read it closely?

What list are you crossing people off?

TRhit

What do you mean "if you have a dream list read it closely?"

He does have a dream list and none of those coaches are talking to him right now. HOWEVER.... "we've been told" there are people looking at him, talking about him, "waiting to see" blah blah.

A friend told us Saturday night that she knows a boy who wasn't being recruited at all and then boom! In the spring a major D-1 called and he signed. Is now a starter there.
So just wondering whether to cross these "dream schools" with big recruiting classes off the "apply and hope" list or not.

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"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby, Hall of Famer

While the studs are recruited in the fall, MOST college players are recruited in the spring of their senior year.. Players and parents DO NOT think its over, for thousands of HS Seniors its just starting.. Spend the winter staying in shape, run and keep hitting the books..

There are opportunities left, there is money left.

If there is a school you are really interested in get proactive, contact the coaches as soon as the return for the holidays, write letters, get coaches who know you well to contact the schools.. Market, Market, Market yourselves..

Good things happen in the spring, just don't think its over!!!

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"Baseball, it is said, is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole."

"JustMom"

Ok I'm just a little confused,thats not to strange really. Who are we talking about being recruited or signed in the spring 04? Current juniors or late signing seniors?

Mobunts,
We're talking about Unsigned seniors.
My confusion comes from the recent changes w/ NCAA and the juco transfers. Many D1 schools signed more juco players and not as many Freshman, but this year with the changes many recruiting classes are quite large. Therefore I was kinda wondering whether these schools might in fact be done.

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"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby, Hall of Famer

Folks let me reiterate what "justmom" said above

Lots of action in the spring-- a lot of the talk about early siginging is nearly a myth

MORE PLAYERS SIGN IN THE SPRING THAN IN THE NOVEMBER SIGNING PERIOD and then you can add the players who go for early admission at some of the top academic schools who have excellent baseball programs--many are still waiting to hear.

There is still plenty of time so don't get your shorts in an uproar!!!

TRhit

Each of the last few years my son's high school program has had at least one player sign D-1 or D-3 and many JuCo. Not one signed early and several have signed after their senior season ended.

The early signing period is a great thing IMO and it's nice to get that decision made and squared away,if you are able to, but like many others have said, the early signing period is typically for the very elite players and some special circumstances, such as a school having a specific need, etc. The spring is where most kids are signed and the impact (perceived or otherwise) of the early signing period is a fairly recent thing. I think early signing has gotten more and more focus as the NCAA has increased the dead and quiet periods.

I think there is PLENTY of time left. At least I hope so since my son hasn't signed yet

Dumb question here (i.e., it has probably been answered before elsewhere). Also hypothetical since my son has applied or will have applied on time (I hope I hope) to the colleges that have actively recruited him. But just out of curiosity, and also for others who haven't signed:

If a college coach decides to recruit you in the spring, and the school's application deadline has passed (most are January 1): does the coach walk the application through after the deadline, or are you restricted to playing at schools that you applied to by their deadline?

Cal2004 -

Deadlines for applications mean nothing in the recruiting process.. I am aware of a player who applied and was accepted just days before the freshman were moving on campus..

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"Baseball, it is said, is only a game. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole."

"JustMom"

yes, applications for late signees will be expedited.

a friend of my son's (as an unsigned senior) accepted an offer from school "B" at an August tournament, days before school was to start.
During the 6 hr drive home he submitted the required info via cell phone, had other documents faxed, and was accepted (in writing) - then he withdrew from school "A" where he was to be an invited walkon - all before they pulled in the driveway. I saw him last night & he's doing well.


MrandMrsBB, to answer your question - yes, some schools are in fact done recruiting this class.



lefties? - - - they just aint right!

BEE

They are done recruiting until the first kid drops out or flunks or gets hurt or gets drafted--then the doors open again--many time a school has a junior they did not think would get drafted and does-

Keep in mind also that many schools have rolling admissions wherein there is no deadline, just recommended dates

TRhit

Ok, thanks everyone.
And just to confirm...............
Quiet Period ends 4/1 correct? And a NLI can be signed any time after this?

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"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby, Hall of Famer