For your information. Beware of those who want to merchandise you and your son:

NCAA New Regulation

Two important things to note (** per my understanding - read it for yourselves):

• Only videos of "inseason" high school or junior college games may be viewed. No type of skills video or taped showcase type event are allowed to be viewed. Sure takes a lot of things out of the picture.
  
• No showcases can be held on a NCAA school campus by anyone other than the school.

Thanks for posting. Very helpful for high-profile athletes who may be benefitting from free services as well as parents who would rather pay someone else to do what they can do themselves.

You know and I know that this new ruling will not stop college NCAA recruiters from viewing these baseball skill shows incognito in order to get a more unbiased decision on evaluation.

I can see it now, little Johnny pitches no-hitter which is the only in-season HS film available to base decision. Suppose that's the only film clip little Johnny has available for recruiters to view and little Johnny pitches very average for remainder of season...Hmmm...
Sure, I bet the parents will want to do the in-season filming themselves and only send out stellar clips of in-season performances.

Bama, how will this affect your scouting service as well as others, like PG? peace

Shepster,

I am nolonger with Gameday Prospects, but don't believe it will hurt the scouting report business. It will require some adjustments, though.

Bama

Are you preaching again? If so, let me know how I can help. peace, Shepster

This dosen't apply to parents/students who do their own taping. This appears to define the benefits that an institution may or may not provide to an athlete student.

I think is the case of surmising, one needs to read over the rules, carefully.

Take#3. Read carefully. Does NOT say a coach CANNOT view a video. He may view regularly HS and JUCO players in contests. If a video is made otherwise the recruit must send it to the coach. Proper channels.
Take #7. Recruiting/scouting services cannot get paid (by institution)to send videos to an institution or be involved as intermediary in the recruiting.

Tournaments can be held on an NCAA campus. Most larger programs have their own camps to use in the assesment of a player with their own eyes. Do many institutions allow "showcase" events on campus. I am not sure.

I think it is designed to protect the athlete as to not jeapoardize his eligibility, since it is very confusing as to what is allowed and what not is allowed. I also think it helps to get the coaches out to see their recruits in actual play, instead of relying on 1 video which does not tell the whole picture. I see it as protecting a recruit who signed because the coach viewed one video, and later went back on his scholarship because he didn't live up to the video. JMO.

I don't think it hurts the legit businesses, only the recruiting/services that either don't know the rules or try to get by making a quick buck.

JMO

Who the heck would one to have their kid sign somewhere based on one video performance?

This is far reaching as I read it. Recruiting and scouting service are considered one in the same as far as these rules apply. So how will the big showcases be affected by this? What about the East Coast Pro Combine...Can it be held at UNC Willmington????? I do see a lot of adjustments being made especially in the college coach/scouting service relationships. This rule eliminates the souting service from calling the college coach about a player....
Fungo

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So how will the big showcases be affected by this?

Use more NAIA/JUCO facilities and fields? I too, see lots of adjustments that will have to be made by a lot of folks! Interesting and thanks for sharing Bama!

Is East Coast Pro run by a recruitng/scouting service? I am not familiar about who runs it.

I am wondering what PG has to tell us about the new ruling.

Another example of the NCAA flexing it's muscle in front of a carnival trick mirror. They end up looking big and silly.

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Only videos of "inseason" high school or junior college games may be viewed. No type of skills video or taped showcase type event are allowed to be viewed. Sure takes a lot of things out of the picture.

JOKE

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No showcases can be held on a NCAA school campus by anyone other than the school.

Another Joke

All this does is stregnthen programs at the top because they have a foot up in the recruiting process to begin with it. Now the "other" schools are going to have to spread out the budgeted money so they watch more HS games, and may lose out on that "diamond in the rough" prospect they saw video on.

The link is to a Q&A but the rule itself is not linked, so I'm not sure exactly what is being interpreted here. But someone help me out: What evil is the NCAA trying to stamp out here?

This starts to look like someone is writing byzantine rules just to mess with you. There's no way anyone could keep track of all this stuff, especially since there doesn't seem to be a unifying policy behind any of it.

But then, this is the same organization that finds William & Mary's logo's feathers offensive, while allowing Florida State to have a full Seminole Indian as a mascot. Rhyme and reason are not their strong suits.

(Fear the feathers! Go Tribe!)

I can only imagine what has driven this. It could be that the coaches with the most clout with the NCAA want to reduce the number of showcases because they themselves are getting into the “showcase for profit market”. ---OR--- It could also be the coaches’ way of reducing the volume of unsolicited junk videos and the numerous recruiting services promoting “their” unqualified players. ---OR---This could be the NCAA’s way of simply trying to regulate recruiting and to bring it back under the control of the colleges where I think it should be. It is obvious the NCAA is trying to drive a wedge between the recruiting/scouting services and the college and college coaches. In my opinion the only people that would complain to the NCAA about the current policies would be the coaches and the parents of recruited players.
Fungo

OK...lets not jump off any buildings here.

The only part of this that is new is the ruling regarding "combines" held on college campuses. The net effect of this is more of a football issue, as it makes the Nike Combines held in the April/May contact period a thing of the past. The wording refers to "agility,flexibility, strength or speed tests." In fact, I'm trying to get some clarification on this myself as we plan to hold a workout (BP, pregame etc) this fall for coaches that are in town for the Fall Classic and are considering a college facility.
The video rule has always been in effect. In essence, a company can shoot a skills video for you, but you have to send it to the school. Its always been that way.
The key word here is "subscribe". A school cannot, for example, pay for a service that videos a showcase and charges to view it online. This would allow people to run events during Quiet periods and charge for the video....illegal.
Again, mom and dad can send the same video to the coach all day long.

My question is this...if I am going to send a video clip to a coach for review, it has to be in season high school only? What about summer Legion ball? Can I go to a local field and film taking swings and showing pop time from behind 2nd base? Is this allowed?

You may send anything you like to the school....the service cannot.

Rb is on to something. The rules have always been there but not defined in respect to showcases and videos. Coaches cannot evaluate players during dead and quiet periods. May have been some confusion about CDs etc.
Institutional showcases held at schools have to be held by the schools coaches and not allowed to have showcase people use the schools facilities without them. How many people complain here about schools coacjes not being present.
Coaches never couls sponser an athlete to go to a showcase/recruiting service as it becomes an illegal benefit. I don't think people realize how stringent the rules are until they get caught. No gifts, benefits even help finding accommodations ETC.
I think most of these rules are clarification and not new.

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Originally posted by Bama Bomber:
For your information. Beware of those who want to merchandise you and your son:

NCAA New Regulation

Two important things to note:

• Only videos of "inseason" high school or junior college games may be viewed. No type of skills video or taped showcase type event are allowed to be viewed. Sure takes a lot of things out of the picture.
  
• No showcases can be held on a NCAA school campus by anyone other than the school.

Bama Bomber: This is NOT what the new NCAA regs say, or the interpretation of the new req w/r showcases held on a college campus!

Seems to me that it really puts the squeeze on PG and B-G events, both of which are often held at college campuses. I wonder what the interpretation will be for the number of fall tournaments and games that are held on campuses? Showcase teams might be the way around the rule.

I think soon we'll hear from PG Jerry on this. Last year when the big Jupiter was Hurricaned out, PG promoted with this baseball web tv. This is a subscription service that a recruiter pays a fee to see video of games played without having to attend the event. My take on the rule is that this kind of service will be effected.