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Monstor, If you have the desire to pitch in college, you will. Being a LHP has its distinct advantages and coaches drool over LHP pitching. Good luck.
"The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital" ~ Joe Paterno
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| Posts: 806 | Location: Georgia | Registered: July 15, 2005 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by monstor344: I throw probably 82 MPH right now.
Probably? You may want to know EXACTLY what you are throwing. Not trying to sound harsh, but a lot of people "think" they are throwing harder than they really are. It's a real slap in the face sometimes when you get a radar gun on you and you know for sure what your velocity is. 
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| Posts: 356 | Location: MI | Registered: August 16, 2005 |    |
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monstor you have a PM
TRhit
THE KIDS TODAY DO NOT THROW ENOUGH !!!!!
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| Posts: 21241 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by RobV: quote: Originally posted by monstor344: I throw probably 82 MPH right now.
Probably? You may want to know EXACTLY what you are throwing. Not trying to sound harsh, but a lot of people "think" they are throwing harder than they really are. It's a real slap in the face sometimes when you get a radar gun on you and you know for sure what your velocity is.
Truer words have never been spoken. You'd be shocked at how inaccurate people's guesses at velocity are, even those with a good deal of experience. When you hear from a 15U about how every kid they played in the summer threw in the mid-80s, it just isn't true. There just aren't that many. You'd really be surprised how few mid-80s kids there are in general. When my dad bought a stalker, a lot of people around here got humbled. We had gotten sick of kids claiming they threw close to 90 when many couldn't get past 75.
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| Posts: 154 | Location: Pontiac, Il | Registered: August 06, 2008 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by monstor344: Assuming I do not improve my velocity over the next year, is 82 MPH as a LHP adequate for D3 programs? What about Ivy League schools? My goal is to get up 4-5 MPH by the end of junior year; will this drastically increase my chances at getting attention from Ivy coaches? I would love to play ball for schools like Harvard, Princeton, and Dartmouth (and if I couldn't make it in for baseball, I'll likely try to get in just as a student).
At D3 level, I have seen leftys that throw low 80's.............AND some that can bring it at the 90 level..... A Lefty who can throw strikes is a desireable commodity.....
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| Posts: 2325 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: January 07, 2003 |    |
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. Loved this on the subject of velocity from PG Staff in another thread quote: Pro Scouts are most interested in projection. DI schools are most interested in what you have NOW. They can't afford to wait 3 or 4 years for a player to develop. However, there are many programs that are better at developing talent than others. People should be more observant regarding the best schools for developing a player/pitcher.
While there might be some DI schools that show interest in mid 80s pitchers, this is the exception not the rule. There are thousands of high school pitchers who throw mid 80s. There are a couple hundred that throw 90. Typically the high 80s and 90+ guys create the very most recruiting interest. This holds true in every part of the country. Once most all of the high 80 to 90+ guys are gone, the mid 80s pitchers are considered, if there is still a need for pitching.
Not trying to burst any bubbles, just think the facts might help people understand a bit better and make better decisions. It doesn't mean mid 80s pitchers have no chance. It means they have to be extra special and show it consistently to the right people. That in itself can be very difficult.
Also, I'm referring to the upper tier of DI for the most part. And I'm not talking about what they throw on the TV radar gun. Many pitchers who have shown the ability to throw 90 or better, end up pitching 85 to 88. Not many, especially RHPs, are given a DI scholarship because they showed mid 80s velocity in high school.
All that said... Anything is possible! And kids throwing mid 80s as high school underclassmen will create some interest. Possibly, that is what brod means when referring to projection. You definitely have to project underclassmen. Most of them get better. The 2011 throwing mid 80s might be throwing 90+ by his senior year. It happens for some and not for many others!
I have a 6'6", 220lb, Mid 80's, LHP headed for high end DI after little to no post HS 4 year interest and an award winning JC career at a top JC....I would agree completely.  44 .
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. Yep, they are out there, but as PG said "...this is the exception not the rule." In our years of experience there are many DI programs who simply will not consider, and do not have to consider pitchers of moderate velocity as they get the pick of the liter. But there also ARE some great DI programs who always have a mid 80's LHP or two on staff and put them to great use. One that immediately comes to mind is ASU. But at that velocity you have to be exceptional AND identify a program that appreciates such talent. We were told that you neeeded to own a swing and miss pitch or two (other than a fast ball) and be able to really control you spots, and be very tough mentally on the mound, and be a groundball picther and and be experienced, and on and on. In other words possible, but there is very little margin for error. Really have to own the craft.  44 .
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