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Originally posted by run7run:
So..this will be his 3rd year at the junior college, he will graduate at the end of the spring. This week the coach told my son that there is a new rule that 3 year juco players can not transfer to D1, no exceptions. Does anyone know of the rule and is it really new?

You might want to go directly to the NJCAA site and review reqs. I haven't heard of that, but suppose it could be a new finding? I've never thought 3 years at a JUCO was the best choice for a player...

Can anyone else clarify?

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.... This week the coach told my son that there is a new rule that 3 year juco players can not transfer to D1, no exceptions. Does anyone know of the rule and is it really new?

That doesn't make any sense. Sounds like there is a misunderstanding and/or there are additional factors not mentioned.

That is why I posted my question. I could not find any mention of it on NCAA web and thought it sounded funny. I told my son I would look into it before he brings it back up to coach. We would not have chosen the red-shirt route if it weren't for the tommy john surgery..Thanks for comments!!!

I'm not aware of a specific ban on transfers of 3 year JC students to D1 schools. However, there have been changes both to the transfer regulations, and to academic progress regulations, effective Aug 1, 2008, and a few which take effect next year. So far as I know, none of the rules directly keep a player from tranferring to a D1 school, but he may have to sit for a year in order to either meet a residence requirement or to repair his academic progress. Since your son only has 2 more calendar years of eligibility, sitting out a year may be undesirable.

I would contact the NCAA directly to understand your son's situation because it is not typical.

I don't think the NCJAA rules are relevant; what matters are the rules of the division he trying to transfer to.

The NCAA D1 manual has the actual rules. Rules 14.4.3 (academic progress) and 14.5.4 (transfer) are the one to read. I find the rules regarding academic progress very hard to understand. But it might be a good idea to have read these two rules before calling the NCAA so that you can have the relevant information about your son available during the call.

If you already have a D1 school in mind, it may be a good idea to get their compliance officer's opinion. It is likely that a critical issue will be the number and kind of credit hours at the JC which will be accepted by the D1 school. I suppose that varies from school to school.

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:

I would contact the NCAA directly to understand your son's situation because it is not typical.

I don't think the NCJAA rules are relevant; what matters are the rules of the division he trying to transfer to.

My thoughts regarding the NJCAA site was because often there will be discussions there that clarify things/rules that affect the NJCAA schools. Good idea to call NCAA directly though.

There are some JUCOs that encourage RS and if this is a true change, it would change things quite a bit for those few schools.

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Re-checked this week (7/14/08)with my two best resources...good friend who is a JC counselor who knows the student athlete route, and a academic advisor who clears all (baseball and basketball) recruits at a high end I...tells the program who and who they have a chance to legally recruit/admit...

To the best of their knowledge, the 3 year JC route is still available and legal. However I would add that it is fraught wth pitfalls, and requires real attention and comittment to goal.

Without going into great detail....because every player should research with JC conselors, 4 year counselors, baseball programs and the NCAA to be certain in their own individual case...

The variables should include number of FULL Time grading periods, number of total units, # of transferrable units, GPA, % of degree complete, AA, "Qualifier" or not...

My understanding is that 3 years with 6 grading periods of full time requires a much higher % of degree completed (upper division units)which is perhaps the biggest, but not the only road block.

Again, still doable, but not a lot of wiggle room...

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Just this weekend a dad of 3 former college ball players (2 of whom were drafted) told me we needed to look hard at JUCO instead of trying to get in DI out of high school. He said it would be a plus as well to go JUCO in the possibility that my son got drafted. Now I have a couple of questions. We're west of Richmond, VA and I'd like to be able to see my son play his college ball. Any good junior college programs we should be looking at AND is the recruiting process any different? I can't say that I've seen many junior college coaches at the tournaments and showcases my son has attended. btw he's a 2010 grad.

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We're west of Richmond, VA and I'd like to be able to see my son play his college ball. Any good junior college programs we should be looking at

According to the following link, there are no JUCO's in Virginia. However, there may be JUCO's in neighboring states. To find out, click on

http://www.baseballclearinghouse.net/index.html

and scroll down below the American Flag box that says "National Database." There are listings of baseball programs for every state, with a notation of what level the school is. Simply click on the states you are interested in and see what's out there.

Best wishes!

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O....... AND is the recruiting process any different? I can't say that I've seen many junior college coaches at the tournaments and showcases my son has attended. btw he's a 2010 grad.

In CA, the JC coaches have a physical recruiting limitation and can't contact players outside their "area"......unless the player calls the coach first. Thus, you don't see alot of CA JC coaches attending showcases etc, as it would be virtually pointless. Instead, many CA JCs rely on reputation, HS coaches, scouts and "friends" to give players their phone number to start the JC process.