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Ole Ball Coach I truly get upset when a parent uses the term spurned with regard to a college Things that can happen on their end: Possibly the school did not need a player at his position Possibly the player did not have the talent they seek Possibly the grades were not adequate Before you throw out the word spurned and degrade a school think about it Also realize that a school is a sons # 1 choice does not guarantee a spot---you can want all you want but the school has to want and need you---that is just the way it is
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| Posts: 19293 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 | |
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quote: Originally posted by TRhit:
Ole Ball Coach
I truly get upset when a parent uses the term spurned with regard to a college...
Uh, yeah. You guys are thinking a whole lot more about the choice of a word than was intended. We know well the business end of it. Certainly we don't think any of it is personal. If I intended to "degrade" the school, I might have mentioned its name, huh? Jeez. ANYWAY, the purpose of the post was to solicit comment about the JuCOs and their role in getting kids for college baseball... |
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| Posts: 70 | Location: Reston | Registered: January 25, 2008 | |
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ole ball coach and others If you guys and gals want to post thoughts then post what you intend it to mean--don't post and than come back and explain what you meant after you are called out on it Jeez Ole Ball Coach---cant you do that--GEEZ!!!!
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| Posts: 19293 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 | |
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quote: ANYWAY, the purpose of the post was to solicit comment about the JuCOs and their role in getting kids for college baseball...
OBC, JuCo is college baseball.  Tough crowd here on a Monday. Yours is a very broad question, much like asking what JuCo/D1/DII/DIII/NAIA best prepares a player for a professional career. First a parent/player needs to find out as much as possible about where players from a given JuCo go after their AA degree. Or, conversely, should the 4 year be of more importance, find out what JuCos have fed players to that program. Some JuCo conferences, particularly in FL, TX & CA are known for the high quality of their programs. Players looking to improve their draft position choose these conferences specifically for that purpose as they will then be draft-eligible every year. I will leave academics aside, other than to say that the smaller classes and more limited distractions at JuCos can be of benefit to certain types of students. Further, the lower relative cost of JuCos (and the availability of scholarship money) can be of benefit to the family finances. Quality coaching is not the sole provence of the 4 year schools; good and bad exist at all levels. However, I think we would all agree that playing time also makes for better players. JuCos not only offer increased playing time for freshman/sophomore players over many 4 years (no juniors or seniors to compete with), but many have a Fall schedule in addition to Spring.
"They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not
one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." --- Terry Pratchett
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| Posts: 3626 | Location: Orlando, FL | Registered: December 30, 2002 | |
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Interesting PM's with terms such as "demonizing" in them--thank goodness I have holy water in the house It used to be fun debating things here and now we are into terms like this !!!! And they do it in PM"s perhaps not brave enuff to say it in the open
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| Posts: 19293 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 | |
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CPLZ Please get off the rostrum-- I named no names --I have a major problem with terms like demoninizing===perhaps you don't but I do--- and then whe I respond I get AS YOU WISH as a response Whispered!!!===LOL I hope the ice breaks soon CP because you need to tie into a lunker---I am serious
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| Posts: 19293 | Location: Manchester, CT USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Fungo: quote: some JuCOs will play the equivilent of a D1's "JV" team in their schedules
I wasn't aware of this. How common is this? I know my son's D-1 didn't have an "equivalent to a JV team" and they only played other D-1s. 
Honestly don't know. Will ask my "source" when I talk to him tomorrow... |
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| Posts: 70 | Location: Reston | Registered: January 25, 2008 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Ole Ball Coach: quote: Originally posted by Fungo: quote: some JuCOs will play the equivilent of a D1's "JV" team in their schedules
I wasn't aware of this. How common is this? I know my son's D-1 didn't have an "equivalent to a JV team" and they only played other D-1s.
Honestly don't know. Will ask my "source" when I talk to him tomorrow...
Fungo, Still don't know how common the practice is, but a quick look at some of the box scores for some of the mid-Atlantic JuCOs I am familiar with suggests that it is part of their schedule. For example, Frederick Community College appears to have played a number of D1's and D2 JV teams recently... Well, D2s and 3s as near as I can tell. OBC |
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| Posts: 70 | Location: Reston | Registered: January 25, 2008 | |
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quote: Originally posted by rbinaz:
D1 schools cannot have JV teams...D2 can
There you go, RBI. See, our thread figured something out this weekend, no =)? Just wanted to share something on this thread (mostly because I have known the young man since he was about seven). There is a young man pitching at Frederick Community College (a lefty with nasty stuff; his intials are KS, check the website, you can figure it out) that played all of ONE inning on his high school team (mostly, IMO, because the pitching coach and the boy's father, both career baseball guys, never got along). Fast forward two years... He stuck with it in spite of everything and is an ace on a team that will almost certainly go to the junior college world series. One of his old travel league coaches told me that he has had inquiries from a D1 in Florida, a D1 from Georgia (very close to hotlanta) and may just get an offer from a (3rd) prominent GA baseball factory. The lesson I get from it is this; all of you HS players who have been told that you can't get it done or that you are to slow/weak/don't have "pop"/have poor hands or whatever, if this is your dream, work your rears off to get better. Don't stop until you do. Compete. Be smart and make yourself the "go-to" guy. There will be a time when you can't play anymore (happens to everyone). Until that time, decide that you will go all out and do everything you can to realize your dream... |
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| Posts: 70 | Location: Reston | Registered: January 25, 2008 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Ole Ball Coach: quote: Originally posted by rbinaz:
D1 schools cannot have JV teams...D2 can
There you go, RBI. See, our thread figured something out this weekend, no =)? Just wanted to share something on this thread (mostly because I have known the young man since he was about seven). There is a young man pitching at Frederick Community College (a lefty with nasty stuff; his intials are KS, check the website, you can figure it out) that played all of ONE inning on his high school team (mostly, IMO, because the pitching coach and the boy's father, both career baseball guys, never got along). Fast forward two years... He stuck with it in spite of everything and is an ace on a team that will almost certainly go to the junior college world series. One of his old travel league coaches told me that he has had inquiries from a D1 in Florida, a D1 from Georgia (very close to hotlanta) and may just get an offer from a (3rd) prominent GA baseball factory. The lesson I get from it is this; all of you HS players who have been told that you can't get it done or that you are to slow/weak/don't have "pop"/have poor hands or whatever, if this is your dream, work your rears off to get better. Don't stop until you do. Compete. Be smart and make yourself the "go-to" guy. There will be a time when you can't play anymore (happens to everyone). Until that time, decide that you will go all out and do everything you can to realize your dream...
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| Posts: 5 | Location: Herndon | Registered: February 26, 2008 | |
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