Im just wondering if it is ok/safe to stack N.O Explode with creakic?

isnt it better when you stack no-explode and cell mass

Isnt it better if you do things naturally?

Baseball2121---how old are you?

I'M 17 isnt that a good enough age to be on supplements

Are you working with a trainer who knows about supplements?

my coach helps me out

Bulldog-
Maybe you should read through this. I know you were not talking about steroids, but sometimes the lines are a bit blured when talking supplements/steroids.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spe/2005/steroids/index.html

Take care of your body.

Both of those supplements are highly underdosed and overpriced.

Be careful with any supplements, as some you might be taknig now might be illegal by ncaa or MLB. Also with any supplement taking do the research first and also keep in mind that becuase it worked for some people, it might or might not work for you. the best stuff i ever took that worked for me was Betagen by EAS.

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Be careful with any supplements, as some you might be taknig now might be illegal by ncaa or MLB. Also with any supplement taking do the research first and also keep in mind that becuase it worked for some people, it might or might not work for you. the best stuff i ever took that worked for me was Betagen by EAS.

It's ironic that you mention this. Certainly while steroids are not allowed to be in any supplements, some companies have been known from time to time to slip steroids into the first batch of their products to get word of mouth of how great the product is and then remove the compound in second batch, which will be the batch that ends up getting tested by the time word gets around.

This doesn't happen often, but has been rumored to on a few occassions, with Betagen being one of them. You might have gotten the spiked batch.

JD great point, always use precaution, unfortunately i was tested in college at random, but fortunately i was clean, but it goes to show you always be safe.

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Originally posted by Jon Doyle:

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Be careful with any supplements, as some you might be taknig now might be illegal by ncaa or MLB. Also with any supplement taking do the research first and also keep in mind that becuase it worked for some people, it might or might not work for you. the best stuff i ever took that worked for me was Betagen by EAS.

It's ironic that you mention this. Certainly while steroids are not allowed to be in any supplements, some companies have been known from time to time to slip steroids into the first batch of their products to get word of mouth of how great the product is and then remove the compound in second batch, which will be the batch that ends up getting tested by the time word gets around.

This doesn't happen often, but has been rumored to on a few occassions, with Betagen being one of them. You might have gotten the spiked batch.

How often does this happen? because a kid at my school got some Xplode in 2005 (my freshman year) he was a senior and went from 185 to 230 in a matter of about 7-8 weeks. It was now fat because the kid is 5'6" and he can squat 480 12 times and it would bend the 45 pound bar he put it up like a cup cake. It was nuts. But he claims it was his supps and the gain he had never happened again.

Now i know what the side effects and effects of steroids, my family 50% doctors and they explain it unbelievably. Now at the time i wasnt near interested in weights so i didnt think about it.

It's very rare. No-Xplode shouldn't cause that, but I highly doubt they spiked it as I've never heard anything. Are you sure the kid is telling the truth? I've known a few hundred kids who swore they were just taking creatine or other supplements and turned out they were on steroids. Obviously impossible for me to know as I don't know the kid.

Im not sure. I have not seen that kid in a good long while. I know he went to the lower 48 for college and i havnt heard from him in a looooooooooong time. Not even on myspace.

And he may have been fibbing on the matter. Not the most trustable kid in school


Also Mr. Doyle you have a PM.

Mass doesn't mean muscle. Some of these supplements cause water retention which make the muscle look big. I'd rather look fit than have the Conseco look anyday. When he gets off of that stuff, you will hardly regonize him. Proper workout and diet will do more for you than any supplement. More weight doing an exercise doesn't help either. Work with a weight you are comfortable with, do the exercise the right way and you will see results. Don't overwork a muscle. That is counterprodutive. Less body fat will also give a muscle good definition. I'm not an expert on fitness, but I have a good general idea on what I'm doing in a fitness club. Don't compete against the other members. Don't rush yourself. I have never heard of a quick fix or a fad diet that is worth the trouble. The old fashion way has been time tested to be proven the best.

Good Luck.....

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Originally posted by TRhit:
Isnt it better if you do things naturally?

Baseball2121---how old are you?

TRhit:
I agree that it's better to do things naturally. The exception would be taking multi-vitimans (Centrum for example) along with Flax-seed oil and then along with a supplement like something that is a high-potency amino acid formulation designed to support muscle strength and structure and lastly a Whey Protein shake sounds pretty harmless taken before & after a workout. Do you agree with that assessment? Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by fanofgame:
TRhit,

although from what i read the NCAA has even removed creatine from list of what players can take, the college coaches cant even give a protein drink if it exceeds 30% of daily rec. amt.they have approved muscle milk collegiate. my son has tried that and says it taste pretty good. you can get them in individual pouches which is nice a s a drink right after a workout.

I need to correct you on one point. The creatine has been removed from a list of what colleges (NCAA only) can GIVE. The key word is "GIVE". Players can take creatine and whatever protein and multi-vitamin/multi-minerals, & other legal supplements they want. College trainers CANNOT provide creatine.

Anyway, the protein limitations are good for those that don't follow directions and don't know how to determine how much protein they need based on body weight calculations and age, and needs.

Muscle Milk is a good product, but the main reason it was "approved" is because it's parent company paid millions of dollars to the NCAA. It's not better, or safer, than any other quality protein product.

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Originally posted by Jon Doyle:
Muscle Milk is a good product, but the main reason it was "approved" is because it's parent company paid millions of dollars to the NCAA. It's not better, or safer, than any other quality protein product.

Good point....and it's also generally expensive because it is mainly marketed to college institutions in final form making it way over the top cost-wise. I notice that Stanford has a HUGE advertisment for it on their web-site.

Jon...What do you think of "Mass Recovery"? My son's trainer has been giving him one bottle to drink after his 2-hour workout twice a week. The website is https://www.Americanbodybuilding.com . My son takes no other supplements.