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Hi, I am a 15 (soon to be 16) yo Sophmore. I love pitching and i am in the top 3 startes for my team. We are all equal and good. My problem is that i want to bench alot over the summer and winter so i can get more power, but i heard benching hurts your pitching shoulder. Any suggestions on what to do. I also plan on running alot ( which if awsome because i LOVE running, i do Indoor Track ). Any suggestion would be appreciated.

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Do your benches with DB's instead because it decreases the pressure on your shoulder.


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How far should i go down?
 
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you should bench with little weight, but lots of reps. and use a towel rolled up like a bottle almost and use that to bounce off your chest. it puts less stress on your rotator cuffs. yahtzee!


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You should NEVER bounce the bar off your chest. Putting that much stress on your ribcage is bad news.


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One thing to keep in mind here is that benching is only a piece of a very intricate puzzle when it comes to the throwing shoulder. If you are going to bench you may want to look into incline benches and keeping your elbows a bit closer to your body then normal. Most guys bench with their elbows straight out to the side which puts alot of pressure on your shoulder, instead bring your elbows in just a little bit tighter to your body.

Now for the big question... What's the most important part of an Indy Race Car? The engine or the brakes? The key to gaining velocity in your arm/shoulder is the ability to apply the brakes after you release the ball. Your body is a very cautious machine and will not allow you to throw harder then you can stop. Be sure to work the muscles in the back of your body (lats, traps, rhomboids, posterior delts, external rotators, etc.) at least 2x as much as you work the muscles in the front of your body.

Next piece of the puzzle is the ground. All or the force produced in throwing a ball is generated from the ground up so make sure that you have a very solid foundation in your legs, especially your hamstrings and glutes.

But strong legs won't get you too far if the power is lost in your core. Remember, the chain is only as strong as your weakest link so make sure that your core is a solid link between your powerful leg muscles and your smaller upper body muscles. Train the core with flexion/extension movements, rotational movements, diagonal movements, and lack of movement in stabilization exercises.

The throwing shoulder needs to be cared for and prehabed, but is the final piece of the puzzle when it comes to throwing strength/velocity. Work from the ground up and from the back to the front and you will see great results!

Yours in Sport!

Coach Dan


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Originally posted by CoachDan:
One thing to keep in mind here is that benching is only a piece of a very intricate puzzle when it comes to the throwing shoulder. If you are going to bench you may want to look into incline benches and keeping your elbows a bit closer to your body then normal. Most guys bench with their elbows straight out to the side which puts alot of pressure on your shoulder, instead bring your elbows in just a little bit tighter to your body.

Now for the big question... What's the most important part of an Indy Race Car? The engine or the brakes? The key to gaining velocity in your arm/shoulder is the ability to apply the brakes after you release the ball. Your body is a very cautious machine and will not allow you to throw harder then you can stop. Be sure to work the muscles in the back of your body (lats, traps, rhomboids, posterior delts, external rotators, etc.) at least 2x as much as you work the muscles in the front of your body.

Next piece of the puzzle is the ground. All or the force produced in throwing a ball is generated from the ground up so make sure that you have a very solid foundation in your legs, especially your hamstrings and glutes.

But strong legs won't get you too far if the power is lost in your core. Remember, the chain is only as strong as your weakest link so make sure that your core is a solid link between your powerful leg muscles and your smaller upper body muscles. Train the core with flexion/extension movements, rotational movements, diagonal movements, and lack of movement in stabilization exercises.

The throwing shoulder needs to be cared for and prehabed, but is the final piece of the puzzle when it comes to throwing strength/velocity. Work from the ground up and from the back to the front and you will see great results!

Yours in Sport!

Coach Dan


Thanks you for the Reply. i was wondering if you could explain some of the exercises for the back of the body. And i would also like to know about core workouts. During tryouts we did Planks, and hip work outs but i was wondering what else i should be doing. Thanks.


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you could try searching for it.

www.exrx.net
 
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If you want to get a lot of power, don't try and get it by benching. Fingertip push-ups and forearm curls. all of your power comes from your forearms and legs.
 
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That is a totally ridiculous statement considering the fact that your entire body contributes to producing the force required to hit/throw a baseball efficiently/hard. Get on a total body strength training program. If you want more help PM me.
 
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Tricep workouts would be great and long tossing would be great, along with incline running (up hills).
 
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check out this report on:

http://www.baseballideas.blogspot.com
 
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As far as back exercises, try this link...

http://www.noexcusesbaseball.citymax.com/home.html

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all of our pitchers play football - they all bench,squat,deadlift,power clean, etc. in the last 3 years we've had nothing but complete games, 2 all state pitchers, 4 pitchers sign college scholarships where they have went and benched,squatted,deadlifted,powercleaned some more, and no hurt or sore arms.
we've got our program posted on our website. its not the only way but its been very good to us. go to menu and click on handouts.
http://www.leaguelineup.com/raiderbaseball
 
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