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Can some explain this to me? If someone is a draft and follow are they still eligible to play at the college level? Thanks!
 
Posts: 148 | Location: New Jersey | Registered: May 01, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Yes, a "draft and follow" is eligible to play at the college level. Usually the point is that the MLB team who has "drafted" the player will "follow" how they are doing at the college level of baseball.
 
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The "DNF" only is applicable for kids who go to juco after being drafted. If you go to a 4 year institution, then the player is not eligible until after his junior year.(Except for some cases in which the player turns 21 by a certain date in relation to the draft) The "DNF" is only good for one year. In other words the pro team only has his rights until 2 weeks before the next draft.


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Catchmom,
Some teams draft a player and if they elect to go to a 4 year college, the team may still follow their progress over the next 3 years.

There is a specific rule if a player is drafted and elects JUCO (Draft and Follow). The team has ownership of that player for a year.

You might be confused over the use of language in the two specific cases.
 
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Tiger Paw there are times when you have no clue about what you are talking about!!!! Bighit did a fine job in explaining exactly how it works....
 
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Once a player steps foot in a classroom of a 4 year institution, the pro club no longer owns his rights. A club may "follow" that player, but he doesn't hold his rights. If a player is a DNF at a juco then the club owns his rights for 1 year, until 2 weeks befrore the next draft, and other clubs may not approach that player.

The pro club may not make an offer to that player until his season with the juco is over. That includes playoffs as well.

The player can then choose to accept the offer from the new team (if one is given) or re-enter the draft if he A. doesn't like the offer or B. he doesn't like the team or C. feels that he can do better in the draft.


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Kudo's to Bighit for taking care of explaining this topic...
 
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a MLB team isn't going to draft a player and call them up and say "well we would like for you to be a DNF",

You are correct.
They will do that in some situations if they know that the player already is going to a Juco! You are right about it being negotiated in most cases ahead of time.


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
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Raiders

And they say I am brutally rough !!!!

Southpaw Mom keep posting !!!


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It does get a little technical, but once drafted the team must make a formal offer within a certain amount of time (not sure how long) or lose the rights to the player. The offer may be a cheeseburger and a bus ticket for the bonus, along with the basic rookie contract, with the unwritten understanding that they would prefer him to go to JUCO and follow for the year.

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TR ...

applaude You took the words out of my mouth, or should I say ... off my keyboard.


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Geez, raiders, what's your problem??? Roll Eyes


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I have a problem with people talkling about a subject they know nothing about and if you are going to make a comment about it please let it not be "dribble babble" that some people try to use.. Bighit did a fine job explaining how a DNF works.. also pretty sure when a player is drafted the MLB team has 5/6 days to make its initial offer and also for a DNF once player has stepped foot in school nothing can be done until players season is officially over
 
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Yes, BigHit did explain it well. But I don't see where Tiger Paw Mom said anything that indicates she knows "nothing about" the subject to warrant the tone of your post.


Is this heaven?...
 
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Raiders,
I NEVER said that Big's explanation was wrong, you read into it what you want to. I am sure he understood what I meant.
Go back and read again. I told Catchmom she may be confused. There are many teams that draft a player, the player elects a four year college but the team still follows their progress, thats all they do, follow their progress. Did I say anything about rights????? I think that you are the only one who didn't get the jist that she was confused. My feeling is at this point, if I said the grass was green, you would argue with me it is red.
Speaking of "dribble babble", I understand you are pretty good at that yourself.
I am going to quite before I get off the subject.
 
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I'm with PAmom - Back off raiders. There is room on this site for all levels of expertise. I appreciate Big's explanation as well, but am always interested in SMom's perspective. Clearly there is more behind your venom than this thread exposes. Want to tell us about it?


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hmmm?
by raiders
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"I have a problem with people talkling about a subject they know nothing about - - - "dribble babble" - - - when a player is drafted the MLB team has 5/6 days to make its initial offer"


for the record - "Major league rules require clubs to tender contracts to their draft picks within 15 days after selecting them"



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You Bee> too funny ...


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Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
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Way to go Raiders....you once again show your charming side in public.

If Big did such a GREAT job of explaining (sorry Bighit, this isn't a backhand at you) then why would he need to further explain not once, but twice? Because there was more that could be added to the subject maybe?
C'mon it's called a Message BOARD.......people post MESSAGES, did you even stop to think that maybe bighit and Tiger Paw Mom were posting at the SAME TIME? This can happen, or if someone is typing a long response, there may be several messages posted in the meantime.

Get it? Or is my Babble making you Dribble?
 
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Raiders........Newsflash

Not to be repetitive, I will just concur with what our fine Ladie's Websters(and TR!) have observed so far today......
TigerPawMom is a regular poster on a wide variety of subjects.....You, OTOH, seem to appear out of nowhere to give her a run for her money. She's got lots of it! Her son is going to Clemson!!


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