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Why are some bonus' listed and others are not, does anyone know why?
 
Posts: 10750 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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From what I've seen, they usually only list the top 10 rounds.

Too embarrassed to list the lower draft bonus numbers. Likely to avoid kids revolting. $500.00; a ticket to a short-season league; and, $20.00 worth of McDonald's coupons, is tough to talk about when you're a parent telling everyone that he was drafted and then you realize you will have to support him for another 4 years. Can't live on $850.00 per month for 3 months and then try to find a job and then the club gets upset because you can't go to instructional league for even less money for a couple of months.

When will they learn? ...The powers that are MLB. Educated kids are killing the minor leagues. Now filled with Latins chasing a dream as they run from poverty and living in a slum tin shack on a mountainside!
 
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TPM,
Where are you looking? I can't find ANY signings... Confused
 
Posts: 1246 | Location: Pacific NW | Registered: August 28, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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As Beenthere so eloquently put it - it would probably cost the team more to pay the data entry clerk to post the bonuses on the internet - than to actually pay the "bonuses" themselves.

A bag of bananas and a bus ticket. How do you put that into a statistical format?
 
Posts: 5809 | Location: Huntersville,NC | Registered: December 27, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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MrsBaseball ...

Baseball America posts the signing bonuses but they have to get the info from somebody ... I would imagine that would be from the MLB clubs. But they just aren't updated on a regular basis.

its ...
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As Beenthere so eloquently put it

Well now ... that might be a whole new meaning for the word "elogent", don't you think? But it is honest. And signing bonuses are a lot like scholarships ... they are better left NOT discussed. The big signings get the notariaty and I think that is all that anybody really cares about.


Mary Ann
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"The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you;
He will never leave you nor forsake you.
Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
 
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I find this a fascinating topic. I respect BeenthereIl's opinion because he has been there with his experience and his son's as well. Sometimes it is the way that you look at an opportunity and what your particular priorities are.
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When will they learn? ...The powers that are MLB. Educated kids are killing the minor leagues. Now filled with Latins chasing a dream as they run from poverty and living in a slum tin shack on a mountainside!


Beenthere is correct here, but it also opens up many opportunities for those who want to work hard to get ahead.


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
Posts: 5103 | Location: South Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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you are correct, the 1st ten rounds the commisioner's office holds teams accountable to sign players in the round selected to slot money for that round.... after the 10th round you will see players selected signing for more money as in the case of my son who was selected past the 10th rd but recieved 7th rd money to sign.. you also have to remember that most senior's selected past the 10th rd recieve the $1000.00 bonus and a plane ticket because they have no leverage... Also I will say that with the negotiations that we went through although stressful I must agree with Bighit that this has been our sons dream and he is taking his shot.... I must also say that in the coming years the signing bonuses are going to decrease due to the commisioners office drawing the line and if you notice from years past the ridiculous amount's of money just isn't there
 
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raiders3604 ...

I think the signing bonus negotiations can be pretty tough on these kids. Our son was beginning to wonder if the scout had heard him when they spoke before the draft about what he would consider a fair amount.

But the bottom line for him (he was drafted in the 9th round) was that he was ready for the next level of competition, he wanted the opportunity to show people what he could do, and he might have even considered paying them to have the chance to play his game and live his dream.


Mary Ann
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"The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you;
He will never leave you nor forsake you.
Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
 
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baby back momma, not trying to turn this into a debate but just trying to let people know about things we had learned through-out the process. I could go on about things that went on through the entire process and our son was never involved in the negotiations. He through the entire process wanted to sign but not for slot money and held his ground and luckily everything worked out.
 
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raiders3604, congrats. You know how I feel about your son. I am so proud. When does he get his first start?


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
Posts: 5103 | Location: South Florida | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hey Big; Congrats on litte E's 1st win but I get so tired and fed up of visiting this site because you have folks giving advice that have no clue what in the hell is going on.... Hopefully he will go next week and will let you know how it goes.... keep in touch....
 
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I get so tired and fed up of visiting this site because you have folks giving advice that have no clue what in the hell is going on....

Gee, what a nice sentiment.
Why don't you straighten them (or me) out if you know something being posted here is incorrect? Don't think anyone would have a problem with that. We're all just trying to help each other afterall. duel
 
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Beenthere,
Thanks, however I know of a player who signed for a million right away and it is still not listed. I was curious as to why.

BBMomma,
I think Raider didn't notice that you have just been through the process also so I know that you do have a clue as to what the **** is going on.

MrandMrs,
You are too sweet! And yes I feel like an ATM myself here or better put The Bank of OFF to College.

Big,
You are getting mellow! I agree with you on this, it opens opportunities that may not be possible after three-four years of college.

Raiders,
You are correct, the commissioner's office holds the teams accountable for the first 10 rounds for the slot money and most of us who have been through the process at sometime or another know after the 10th round signing is not about the bonus $$$.
 
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The Commissioner's office should hold itself accountable for what it hasn't done for baseball.

Bud...In my opinion...What a joke!
 
Posts: 7539 | Location: Frankfort, IL. 60423 | Registered: December 26, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I am not going to argue with Beenthere and his personal experiences. Though I don't view it exactly as he does, I certainly respect his and his son's experience. Though Beenthere is correct in his assessments to some degree, I just don't see it as that negative. Firstly, the competition is pretty good and by the 3rd year if you are to high A or A ball, you are definitely playing a significantly better brand of ball than most colleges. Colledge coaches like to say that college ball is equal to AA. If it was then why do only a handful of college draftees go to high A or AA ball. I think for the hs pitcher, that pitching in the minors has the wood bat as a great equalizer. I think that position players might gain an advantage by staying in college and playing college summer ball like Cape Cod, etc.

I think that it gives the HS grad the ability to compete right away at a high level. I know guys who were drafted and did not sign last year that got 15 innings in d-1 ball and are miserable about the lack of development. The emphasis in college is on winning now and not on development. So some guys sit even though they can compete. JMO


"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"I am responsible for the effort -- not the outcome. "
 
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BigHit

This is a good observation.
I think the expectations you have outlined
are realistic with regards to time frame
and the advantages that pitchers have with the use of wood while hitters make their adjustments.


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Posts: 2525 | Location: Northeast | Registered: December 31, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Great topic. Now, how much does a player from short season to AAA make a year? Do they get paid throughout the year or just during the season? Do they sign mutli-year contracts or yearly. Thanks.
 
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GoGo ...

Directly from MinorLeagueBaseball.com's FAQ:

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4) What do Minor League players earn?

Minor League Baseball player contracts are handled by the Major League Baseball office. Here are the salary ranges:

First contract season: $850/month maximum. After that, open to negotiation

Alien Salary Rates: Different for aliens on visas--mandated by INS (Immigration).

Triple-A--First year: $2,150/month, after first year no less than $2,150/month

Class AA-First year: $1,500/month, after first year no less than $1,500/month

Class A (full season)--First year: $1,050/month, after first year no less than $1,050/month

Class A (short-season)--First year: $850/month, after first year no less than $850/month

Dominican & Venezuelan Summer Leagues--no lower than $300/month

Meal Money: $20 per day at all levels, while on the road


Note: Class A (short-season) ... I believe this also applies to "rookie" short season, not just "A"

Also, my understanding ... the players are only paid while they are actually playing and during spring training, but somebody like Chill may know more about that.

If your are interested in more information, here is a direct link to the FAQ section of MinorLeagueBaseball.com:

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/help/faq/


Mary Ann
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"The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you;
He will never leave you nor forsake you.
Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
 
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GoGo,

Can't answer all your questions, but here is what I found on the Minor League site:

What do Minor League players earn?

Minor League Baseball player contracts are handled by the Major League Baseball office. Here are the salary ranges:

First contract season: $850/month maximum. After that, open to negotiation

Alien Salary Rates: Different for aliens on visas--mandated by INS (Immigration).

Triple-A--First year: $2,150/month, after first year no less than $2,150/month

Class AA-First year: $1,500/month, after first year no less than $1,500/month

Class A (full season)--First year: $1,050/month, after first year no less than $1,050/month

Class A (short-season)--First year: $850/month, after first year no less than $850/month

Dominican & Venezuelan Summer Leagues--no lower than $300/month

Meal Money: $20 per day at all levels, while on the road.


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FrankF ...

Hey, I guess "great minds think alike" is a truism !!!!!

Mary Ann


Mary Ann
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"The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you;
He will never leave you nor forsake you.
Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
Deuteronomy 31:8 [8/21/08]
 
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