According to a summary I read this morning, the new CBA affects, in a very significant way, aspects of the draft. Assuming the CBA is ratified, it will implement a final, mandatory signing date of August 15 following the draft. No more draft and follows. No more leverage of attending/not attending classes with varying dates depending on when college starts. For every draftee other than a college senior, you must be signed by August 15, or wait until the next draft. Interesting implications which I do not think are player favorable in most situations.
'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
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This is interesting. Even with a kid that it may effect, I can see where an MLB team should not be held hostage by a player with no experience.
With that said, teams are going to have to do their homework before the draft in order to really establish signability issues. I wonder if pre-draft agreements will become a more popular avenue?
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I wonder if pre-draft agreements will become a more popular avenue?
If this gives the players less leverage as suggested, then you would think pre-draft agreements would have been more popular under the old system because the players had more options under that system and thus, the pre-draft agreement would provide more certainty for the teams
It's funny, two names came to mind when I read infielddad's post. Scott Boras and Luke Hochevar.
rz, I would imagine there will be LOTS of pre draft talk. I look at this as more favorable because at least player has an idea of what's ahead. It goes against NCAA rules, and could jeopardize scholarships?
I don't see those agents advising clients to hold out for more money being too happy. After all, isn't that what holds things up?
If MLB were smart, they would figure out a way to give each slot in the first 10 rounds a value, a fair value, with some leeway for school. Then you know just what the story is. JMO.
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Amateur Draft 1. Clubs that fail to sign first or second round draft pick will receive the same pick in the subsequent draft as compensation. Club that fails to sign a third round pick will receive a sandwich pick between rounds three and four in the subsequent draft as compensation. 2. Period of time before a Player must be protected from the Rule 5 Draft is changed from three or four years from first minor league season to four or five years from year of signing. 3. Signing deadline of August 15 for draft picks other than college seniors.
Draft Choice Compensation 1. Type C free agents eliminated in 2006 2. Also in 2006, compensation for type B players becomes indirect (sandwich pick) as opposed to direct compensation from signing Club. 3. Effective 2007, Type A players limited to top 20 percent of each position (down from 30 percent) and Type B players become 21 percent - 40 percent at each position (rather than 31 percent - 50 percent). 4. Salary arbitration offer and acceptance dates move to December 1 and December 7.
Minimum Salary 1. Major League: $380,000 in 2007, $390,000 in 2008 and $400,000 in 2009, COLA in 2011. 2. Minor League: $60,000 in 2007, $62,500 in 2008, $65,000 in 2009. 3. New minimum for first time roster players of 50% of minor league minimum. 4. Maximum cut rule applicable to split contracts reduced to 60% from 80%.
Posts: 3857 | Location: Madison Wi | Registered: January 06, 2003
Seems to me that the clause would simply shorten up the draft considerably. Most of the later rounds are for draft and follow purposes as far as I can tell so if you can't benefit from having a season to look at a kid why bother drafting them.
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ha, i hope we start making 60K a year, it would make life in the minors a LOT easier. I guess i'll just have to wait until i get my next years salary form to see if its true. Where did you get this information from anyway?
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2. Minor League: $60,000 in 2007, $62,500 in 2008, $65,000 in 2009. 3. New minimum for first time roster players of 50% of minor league minimum.
Can someone explain what this means
The minor league minimum is for what type of players? Triple A? What is the 50% rule? First year minor league players make $30,000?
Confused
CD, my guess, and it is just a guess, is that those figures apply to minor league players who have reached the point of free agency and can sign/negotiate to play with any club. This does not apply to players who sign following the draft and are bound to their club for the next 6 years, or until they are released from that contract by the club. Bottom line, these salaries are the minimums for players who are free agents. They do not apply to minor leaguers covered by the standard contract...although I sure wish it did!!!
'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
Posts: 2051 | Location: ca | Registered: February 11, 2003
infielddad - I just did some googling on the subject of minor league salaries. Under the old system (from article on CBS news site):
quote:
The minimum minor league salary for players on 40-man rosters for at least the second year or with at least one day of major league service will increase from $52,600 to $54,500, the commissioner's office said Tuesday.
I am guessing maybe these minimum numbers published in this new agreement are similar to the old agreement i.e., for those players listed on the 40 man rosters for at least the second year or who have had at least one day of mlb service as the previous agreement was structured.
CD, I think your "Googling" is a lot more accurate than my "guessing." Your approach makes much for sense. This is the MLB collecitve bargaining agreement and would cover issues at the major league level. Regulating salaries for those on the 40 man and those who are called up during the season would be MLB issues. Free agency at the minor league level would not. For those who have suggested, in the past, that you do not need an advisor/agent to play professional baseball, this is pretty good information, in my view, to say you do.
'You don't have to be a great player to play in the major leagues, you've got to be a good one every day.'
Posts: 2051 | Location: ca | Registered: February 11, 2003
For those who have suggested, in the past, that you do not need an advisor/agent to play professional baseball, this is pretty good information, in my view, to say you do.
This looks like very good advice to me as well The 50% rule then makes sense if viewed in terms of the 40 man roster. Thus, the first time you make a 40 man roster you will be making at least $30,000 if I am interpreting things correctly.
AHSPitcher17 - the next goal is to get you on the 40 man roster
I asked son's advisor. The 60K is only for major league roster players who are in the minor leagues, not all minor leaguers. He states he has a meeting with the union soon to try to get interpretation. I guess we are not the only ones confused!
Sorry, AHSPitcher17, no raise yet!
Posts: 10704 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003
Isn't this a shame? Professional players in the low minors continuing to complain about the minimal amount of money that they make and they can't support themselves.
Some things never change 1966 to 2006...40 years of screwing minor leaguers.
I hear where you're coming from and on the side of kindness it sucks. But, I wonder of the 1500 or so that are drafted each year what percentage is considered a throw away resource? Many are there to eat innings, be a pitching machine, and/or live batter for the few that are earmarked a "prospect". This a very short stop in the conclusion of a players dream to go as far as he can playing baseball. In a very shallow way I almost see them as a very high level "limited term employee (LTE)" and in the real business and in the real world those people are treated the same way. Most outgrow their need, some move on to greener pastures, but a few diamonds in the rough show their worth and stay on as a full time employee. The difference is those in the real world do it to survive, in baseball I think they do it for the passion of the game and to realize the end of a great ride. I'll bet that if you asked, many would even do it for less.
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The 50% rule then makes sense if viewed in terms of the 40 man roster. Thus, the first time you make a 40 man roster you will be making at least $30,000 if I am interpreting things correctly. 
