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My baseball knowledge is very limited. He looks too easy to me sometimes. The arm speed seems not quick enough. Any help is welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcgywyEdrlk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcgywyEdrlk

Balance and consistent delivery
Appears to have an arm slot he can reproduce
Transfers force well.

Superstar?
 
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Superstar?


I hope so...... Smile
 
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It appears that his stride could be a little longer. He is opening before foot plant and his shoulders appear to turn with his hips. A longer stride, waiting until right at foot plant to turn the hips, then shoulders to get some hip shoulder separation, meaning hips turn first then the shoulders, can get him more velocity.
 
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It appears that his stride could be a little longer. He is opening before foot plant and his shoulders appear to turn with his hips. A longer stride, waiting until right at foot plant to turn the hips, then shoulders to get some hip shoulder separation, meaning hips turn first then the shoulders, can get him more velocity.


Thank you, I wish him get drafted this year. A little bit loger stride, he may hit 100 Mph, do you think so?
 
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Any pitching "Gurus" here? It seems like we got a lot of out of topic arguments, no serious discusstion about mechanics in a lot of threads.
Coaches, Scouts, please give some helpful comments......
 
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It appears that his stride could be a little longer. He is opening before foot plant and his shoulders appear to turn with his hips. A longer stride, waiting until right at foot plant to turn the hips, then shoulders to get some hip shoulder separation, meaning hips turn first then the shoulders, can get him more velocity.


Thank you, I wish him get drafted this year. A little bit loger stride, he may hit 100 Mph, do you think so?


He also needs to keep shoulders closed/ facing 3rd base until foot lands. How hard does he throw now?
 
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He also needs to keep shoulders closed/ facing 3rd base until foot lands. How hard does he throw now?


Fastball top at 96mph, cruise at 91-93mph. One nasty curveball is his strike out pitch.
 
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He also needs to keep shoulders closed/ facing 3rd base until foot lands. How hard does he throw now?


Fastball top at 96mph, cruise at 91-93mph. One nasty curveball is his strike out pitch.


If he is throwing that hard you shouldn't be talking to us. I think Deemac or Beemac are pro scouts. I'd listen to them.
 
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Arms works nice , Bullpen mound needs help!
 
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If he is throwing that hard you shouldn't be talking to us. I think Deemac or Beemac are pro scouts. I'd listen to them.

AND that BP mound needs A Bunch of work....

I would find it difficult to make a suggestion here (Not that I would), he very obviously isn't working full effort. He has a good solid athletic frame and appears well conditioned. You say that you don't know that much, he's had some good coaching or if he's gotten to this stage by shear desire...yow! I would bet at full speed his stride lengthens a bit. How old is he? At those speeds I don't think trying for more velocity is where it's at. If anything, and again he's not at full speed, just polish him up, smooth him out and he'll pop up a couple more mph. BUT if it isn't broke don't let a guru break it...this kid has some stuff going, educate yourself, learn where his path needs to go, YOU work in his best interest and let him rise to where his desire will take him...I'm sure folks will want to hitch a ride on his train..so to speak (Latch on to a winner for their own purposes).
Has he been looked at by many colleges? Or is that a college jersey he's wearing?
 
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The elbow-y arm action is the probably my favorite part of his delivery. Other than that, I think he could speed up his delivery for the faster whip of the arm (ala guys like Billy Wagner or Tim Lincecum). I don't see much of intent to throw hard from him... well I hope he really is throwing 91~93mph though


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He looks pretty good, but as others have said, it's hard to make comments on a throw that isn't at game speed or 100% effort.

With any high level throw, the more efficient/better you are at loading and unloading, the more velocity you will have.

Topping out at 96...I would say he's pretty good at both. Cool
 
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He also needs to keep shoulders closed/ facing 3rd base until foot lands....
It appears that his stride could be a little longer.
He is opening before foot plant and
his shoulders appear to turn with his hips.

That's quite a few, five to be exact, discrepancies. Yet he throws 96 mph. Once he corrects these, what will he throw then?
 
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Originally posted by MTS:
He also needs to keep shoulders closed/ facing 3rd base until foot lands....
It appears that his stride could be a little longer.
He is opening before foot plant and
his shoulders appear to turn with his hips.

That's quite a few, five to be exact, discrepancies. Yet he throws 96 mph. Once he corrects these, what will he throw then?

Uh... who knows? The important thing is that there are flaws that are pointed out by MTS


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The important thing is that there are flaws


Perhaps suggestions by someone who cares but at those speeds...flaws? Can we please stop p i s sin in folks' Wheaties here? Kbat wanted input, MTS and The Eyeball don't see eye to eye...ok...If Kbat takes everything he hears as gospel he'll just confuse the kid anyway.
Educate yourself, train your kid, let his desire take him places, he has talent, if he has problems, find a quality instructor. Learn and have him learn abour arm health and maintenance...enjoy the time you have with him.
 
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Thank you jdfromfla, he is a high school senior. He will be playing for a prestigious D1 college. What I really believe is that he would be drafted from High school as a top 10 pick. Do you think there are any more improvements needed to get him drafted as a high schooler. With the 96 mph velocity alone could get him there, right?
 
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Kbat,I was serious, me tryin to improve what I see here is innappropriate, I don't know enough or see enough. When we're talkin this kind of speed, every little nuance that gets changed can lead to serious injury, I'm not in a position to tell you anything except what I have, nothing wrong with learning and getting as much information as you can, I highly recommend it. If he has any issue..get him to someone who can see him consistantly over time, when he's tired, when he's fresh. The D-1 that wants him should be able to make reputable recommendations, use the assets that you have, learn as much as you can and like I said...you enjoy every moment you have with him.
 
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Looks like Tim Melville.
 
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I agree with those who say that he should lengthen his stride a bit. Other things. I like how he keeps his arm from locking out at the elbow and it is slightly bent as he finishes. I woul like to see the landing foot on the stride point towards home as he finishes. His stride foot and thigh is impeding his finish. I also don't like falling off towards 1st after he finishes. Try to square up more towards home and not let the post leg come so far forward that it lands past a parallel position with the stride foot.
So lengthen his stride , and drive towards the home plate with the landing stride foot pointing towards home and bend at the waist towards home and let the trainling foot land almost pareallel to the stride foot. Head should be steady and looking straight at home for a few seconds to allow him to protect himself and handle comebackers.
 
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