This is composite post. My son is away from home playing ball in a college league this summer. He has been tweaking his throwing motion and now he think he's messed up some things because he is in a good bit of pain that he can't seem to shake. He sent me the following video that he took with a teammate...
What I see is (a) lack of starting hip rotation and lack of core recoil (b) locked left leg, (c) stiff back and shortened follow-through.
He started catching in Junior year of HS and has various arm issues since. As soon as one issue gets fixed, anothe pops up. Started with rotator... which is fine now. But, now problem is elbow, near TJ point.
Anyone know of someone that really understands throwing mechanics AND arm physiology... in the Indiana/Ohio area (which is where he is).
Thanks!!!!
Posts: 70 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: April 13, 2004
Originally posted by SnowBall: He has been tweaking his throwing motion and now he think he's messed up some things because he is in a good bit of pain that he can't seem to shake.
First of all, pain is never good. He should shut down and go see a doctor.
Second, his Throwing Arm Side elbow gets quite high; above the level of his shoulders like this...
This can lead to rotator cuff problems. I don't like the elbow to get above the level of the shoulders.
Third, he seems to show the ball to 2B/CF. This can increase the strain on the UCL. He should show the ball to 3B.
Posts: 1096 | Location: St. Louis, MO | Registered: March 06, 2006
Just so that I'm clear in my mind about what you are talking about.
Can you please post a pic or two that clearly defines
quote:
he seems to show the ball to 2B/CF...He should show the ball to 3B
I'm pretty sure I know what you are talking about but I want to make sure before I jump to a conclusion
Thanks!
-------------------------------------------------- I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation
Pain you are right ,pain is never good especially when it comes from you.
The guy is a catcher and the video shows nothing but 2 guys playing catch.
Doc I am sure you know every coach from here to Timbucktoo teaches a pitcher to rotate the ball at the full **** position towards 2nd base. Our resident genius of couse disagrees. Pain you are totally incorrect. you know nothing about pitching.
Posts: 6047 | Location: Canada | Registered: October 13, 2005
Pain put your cursor on the video and right click. Then zoom in on the hand. He dosen't rotate his wrist at all. Zero Zip. I think you just like spreading your ****. Find a field that need frertilzer.
Posts: 6047 | Location: Canada | Registered: October 13, 2005
Doc I am sure you know every coach from here to Timbucktoo teaches a pitcher to rotate the ball at the full **** position towards 2nd base
That's why I want to make sure.
-------------------------------------------------- I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation
Doc he looks at a pitcher in a photo and sees the stress placed on the forearm and he has a revelation. That probably causes injury. Pitching is a violent motion and Pain is going to solve the worlds problems. If you look at the videp the guy doesn't rotate his wrist at all.
Posts: 6047 | Location: Canada | Registered: October 13, 2005
Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll: Doc I am sure you know every coach from here to Timbucktoo teaches a pitcher to rotate the ball at the full **** position towards 2nd base. Our resident genius of couse disagrees.
I know they teach this.
The problem is that this isn't what 90% of pitchers do. Instead, most show the ball to SS or 3B.
For example...
You'll also notice the lack of the "L".
You guys need to start comparing what people are teaching to what the best pitchers in the world actually do.
Posts: 1096 | Location: St. Louis, MO | Registered: March 06, 2006
Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll: Pain put your cursor on the video and right click. Then zoom in on the hand. He dosen't rotate his wrist at all. Zero Zip. I think you just like spreading your ****. Find a field that need frertilzer.
Look at the last throw of the clip.
Posts: 1096 | Location: St. Louis, MO | Registered: March 06, 2006
Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll: Doc I am sure you know every coach from here to Timbucktoo teaches a pitcher to rotate the ball at the full **** position towards 2nd base. Our resident genius of couse disagrees.
I know they teach this.
The problem is that this isn't what 90% of pitchers do. Instead, most show the ball to SS or 3B.
For example...
You'll also notice the lack of the "L".
You guys need to start comparing what people are teaching to what the best pitchers in the world actually do.
What pitch would you guys say these pitchers are throwing??? Their thumbs are tucked, so it's not a fastball. The arm is going to be bent in on a curve or breaking pitch, isn't it??? No need for a whip action on an off speed pitch!
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