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quote: Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
Oh my goodness, Not looking to war. Since it is not possible for both WF and UNC not to win one game at the ACC Tournament, many decisions have yet to be determined. Allow me to highlight some of those! 1. End of regular season & tournament rankings 2. Super Regional Host 3. Regional Host 4. Entry into NCAA Tournament The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee has done some interesting things over the years. It's one of those little tidbits the ACC Commissioner, at the Conference winter meetings, has discussed repeatedly over the years. Its also been said: "...there will be more emphasis on conference tournaments as it relates to host sites than..... ....And if that's the case, that will probably play down into selection into the regionals, too. ..This is a very important for the tournaments...." I will be sure to let Mississippi State's athletics director and the NCAA baseball selection committee chairman aware a twelve year HS Coach in NC, a Dad of talented HS Sr in VA and Ant Bessie collectively know best. cya jacks
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| Posts: 1568 | Location: Fairland, Maryland USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 |    |
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CoachMay, Its - Da Bear - LOL Keep it all in perspective when dealing with this guy. 
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970
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| Posts: 5809 | Location: Huntersville,NC | Registered: December 27, 2002 |    |
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The sixteen 2008 NCAA Regional Hosts (as announced today) Coastal Carolina, Arizona State, Cal State Fullerton, Florida State, Georgia, Long Beach State, Louisiana State, Miami (Fla.), Michigan, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Oklahoma State, Rice, Stanford and Texas A&M as regional hosts. All the schools will host on campus except for North Carolina, who will host at the USA Baseball National Training Complex in Cary, N.C.
When was the last time four ACC schools were hosting?
Its... Will you be chanting coom-bye ya and citing poetry in the Ladies room with Rizzi?
Ant B: The Terps are a tier three program in the ACC. That's spelled t....i....e.....r.
Bottom Line: Has Randy's son, and Dan's twin brother, who each had an incredible college career played their last game for the Deacons?
One thing is clear: No one sees the tournament being hosted at Jacksonville anytime soon!
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| Posts: 1568 | Location: Fairland, Maryland USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 |    |
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Those may be the tiers this season, but they weren't in seasons not so long ago, and they probably won't be next year or the years after that. These things ebb and flow.
Wake went to the NCAA's 4 of 5 years from 1998-2002, had a couple of ACC championships in there, and was ranked as high as # 2 in the U.S. polls at one point in that run. Not so very long ago.
To rank UVA and Ga. Tech below NCSU is to focus only on this year and not seasons as recent as 2005, 2006 or 2007. Even this year, UVA knocked off UNC and FSU to crash the party at the championship game.
Miami and FSU were killer this year, but last year, where did they finish?
Clemson, second tier? Ha! We are after all talking about a program that's been to Omaha fairly recently, that put its three weekend starters from 2007 into the very top of the pro draft. Sure, after those losses they fell off a bit, but I wouldn't bet against Clemson in 2009, or ever.
You can see massive improvement at Duke already. Va. Tech is not a school that takes losing lightly and is likely to invest more and more into baseball in years to come.
Bottom line, it's the nation's best conference, it's getting increasingly competitive, and even those teams you used to think of as doormats can smudge your record now.
As we always tell our players, nobody ever won anything by running their mouths. When you play it out on the field, you invariably get some surprises. And if you didn't, it wouldn't be very interesting now, would it?
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| Posts: 2495 | Location: Virginia | Registered: February 01, 2006 |    |
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An eyebrow was raised when seeing the sixteen regional team hosts.
Note that Texas was NOT picked over Nebraska and GT was NOT picked over NC State.
But it was the #2 seeds that raised both eyebrows:
The sixteen 2008 NCAA Regional hosts (as announced Sunday) and eight Top National Seeds (as announced Monday)Coastal Carolina, ASU, Cal State Fullerton, FSU, Georgia, Long Beach State, Louisiana State, Miami (Fla.), Michigan, Nebraska, UNC, NC State, Oklahoma State, Rice, Stanford and Texas A&M. 2008 Top National Seeds 1. Miami (Fla.) (47-8) : Coral Gables Regional 2. North Carolina (46-12): Cary Regional 3. Arizona St. (45-11) 4. Florida St. (48-10) : Tallahassee Regional 5. Cal St. Fullerton (37-19): Fullerton Regional 6. Rice (42-13) 7. LSU (43-16-1) 8. Georgia (35-21-1) : Athens Regional
And the Number Two Seeds 1. Missouri (Miami): 4th-B12, 7-3 last 10 games. 2. UNC-Wil (UNC): 4th-CAC Tourney 6-4 last 10. 3. Vanderbilt (ASU): 6th-SEC, 3-7 over last 10. 4. Florida (FSU): 3rd-SEC, 6-4 over last 10. 5. UCLA: (Cal St): 3rd-Pac-10, 7-3 over last 10. 6. Texas (Rice): Big 12 T-Champs, 9-1 last 10. 7. So Miss (LSU): 2nd-C-USA, 5-5 over last 10. 8. GT: (Ga): 5th-ACC, 5-5 over last 10.
How about the College Station Regional? Dallas Baptist as the #2 seed?
Clearly the Houston Regional gets interesting? Did Rice (or Texas) get shafted? (And maybe reconsider powerhouse S.Houston St. as No. 4 seed?)
Many email exchanges seem to agree. The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee gets a C-. (What else is new).
cheers
postscript: - Mars: It's been a two tier 'system' probably from the BIGinning when seven initial charter members withdrew from the Southern Conference (early 50's). Since then the charter members within the conference have changed (remember when SoCaro left the ACC? ....probably not).
However, over the last several years or so, ACC baseball is transitioning from a two tier, to a two and a half tier, to a three tier. Bottom line: With Oregon State NOT in the Regionals this year, it may be the year to win it all! However, the SEC has nine teams in. The Big 12 also has six teams in. With PAC-10 and C-USA with five. And for those pre-selecting the top 64, who predicted CAA getting two picks? Yet three national seeds from the ACC is impressive.
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| Posts: 1568 | Location: Fairland, Maryland USA | Registered: December 26, 2002 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by itsinthegame: CoachMay, Its - Da Bear - LOL Keep it all in perspective when dealing with this guy.
Good post. Clemson has made 21 consecutive appearances to the NCAA playoffs. Ranked in the final top 25 for 18 of the last 21 seasons. Produced 8 first round picks in the last 13 years. One of the top college baseball facilities in country. Tough year for Clemson. So that makes them second tier? OSU didn't make it this year either, I would now think Bear considers them as a lower tier Pac10 team. A regular in Omaha, Standford had been going through a few rough years. GT missed the NCAA playoffs last year after a successful run to Omaha in 2006. Not to take away from NCS, their roster consists of well over 35 players with about 21-22 being upperclassman. Parity, draft in college baseball causes ebbs and flows as Midlo suggests. Coach May's Aunt Bessie was correct.
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| Posts: 10995 | Location: South Florida | Registered: July 28, 2003 |    |
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